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Old 08-15-2005, 05:21 PM
Sean D Sean D is offline
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After playing a home game at my friend's house, I was sweating him in a $100 MTT on Empire. About 100 players entered. He was big stack at the table after tripling up with AKh. He had around 2900 chips. Villain is another big stack with around 1800. I'll try to get the hand details as close as possible.

Its early on, Blinds are 10/20, Hero is CO with QQ

Villain calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 40</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="red">Hero raises to 250</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="red">Villain raises to 1800 all in</font>, 4 folds, Hero?

Well this situation sucks. He's getting a decent price, but this looks too much like aces or kings. Thoughts?
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:26 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing LRR

I usually tend to call in these spots but I may be wrong. You'll see 77-JJ AQ-AK alot more than Aces or Kings IMO. Plus I like having a big stack this early on.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:48 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Oops I misread, thought it said he was big stack at final table and this was just earlier on with a average stack. I still call though
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:06 PM
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With less in the pot, it looked like an easy fold to me. But if he wins the hand, he is really in control of the table with a lot of chips. There is a lot of dead money out there to win.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:36 PM
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With less in the pot, it looked like an easy fold to me.

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This is NEVER an easy fold. Empire 100+9 != WPT 10K.

You can argue that it's a close fold...but calling it an easy fold is dumb.

Will
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:56 PM
Sean D Sean D is offline
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With less in the pot, it looked like an easy fold to me.

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This is NEVER an easy fold. Empire 100+9 != WPT 10K.

You can argue that it's a close fold...but calling it an easy fold is dumb.

Will

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Maybe I meant to say an _easier_ fold, had there been less chips in the pot. The LRR, after a raise, and reraise, screamed aces, but with that much dead money in the pot, I think its close.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:29 PM
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He has a pretty dominant stack still even if he folds. With this great a chip position early on I'd fold. If I had any read on the villain that hinted at donkishness I'd call.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:46 PM
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If I had any read on the villain that hinted at donkishness I'd call.


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definitely agree.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:43 PM
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After playing a home game at my friend's house, I was sweating him in a $100 MTT on Empire. About 100 players entered. He was big stack at the table after tripling up with AKh. He had around 2900 chips. Villain is another big stack with around 1800. I'll try to get the hand details as close as possible.

Its early on, Blinds are 10/20, Hero is CO with QQ

Villain calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 40</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="red">Hero raises to 250</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="red">Villain raises to 1800 all in</font>, 4 folds, Hero?

Well this situation sucks. He's getting a decent price, but this looks too much like aces or kings. Thoughts?

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call, he has AK.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:31 PM
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I agree...call. More often than not in this situation early on in a MTT, you'll usually see A-K or A-Q along with any PP. It's a suckout possibility for sure, but it's also an opportunity to build a large stack early in the tournament.
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