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Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
I was playing 3/6 at the Trump Indiana last Friday (wonderful loose game, by the way) when the following occurred (for full disclosure, this was my first foray into casino poker):
An older man was sitting directly to my left; his wife was just to his left (on the other side of the dealer). Both bought in for about $50, which seemed quite short. We were playing a kill pot, and I had raised AJs from middle position and gotten 4 callers (including the wife but not the husband). The flop was Ace-high and rainbow, and I raised an early-position bet from a LAG and still got 3 callers. After my turn bet, I saw the wife lean behind the dealer and mouth to her husband: "Does he have it?" He nodded, and she folded. This didn't bother me too much until I thought about it later (although I was a lot more careful about how I peeked at my cards just in case). I didn't bother saying anything at the time because both players seemed quite weak; however it later became apparent that the wife almost always called down with any piece of the board or any pocket pair, especially in big pots, so this may or may not have cost me 2 BB (calls for my turn bet and river bet). Should I have done anything here? Should I have been more willing to let it go to keep them happy and at the table because they seemed beatable? At the very least they were discussing the hand; at the worst he'd seen my holecards. Because I'm a B&M newbie I don't know how to handle this. Any thoughts? |
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
First off you make DAMN SURE that no one sees your hole cards.
Like real estate's first three rules, the first three rules of casino poker are... protect your hand! protect your hand! protect your hand! Second, it's ONE PLAYER TO A HAND. If this is a common occurrence between an obvious couple then you should say something to the dealer, who should then immediately put a stop to it. al |
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
[ QUOTE ]
First off you make DAMN SURE that no one sees your hole cards. Like real estate's first three rules, the first three rules of casino poker are... protect your hand! protect your hand! protect your hand! Second, it's ONE PLAYER TO A HAND. If this is a common occurrence between an obvious couple then you should say something to the dealer, who should then immediately put a stop to it. al [/ QUOTE ] It should also be noted that you don't have to make a big deal out of it when mentioning it. Just do it politely and casually. You could even say it jokingly and with a smile. Don't stop the whole game just to point it out. No reason to be humiliating to the offender more than need be. But you also don't want to come across as a bitter nit and bark at them as I've seen done. b |
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
although i say do nothing, it doesn't really matter, especially at this limit if you do say something and they end up leaving. as a person i dont really care if they're losing, but it's well justified and probably the more proper thing to do would be to inform the dealer
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
The poker/basketball anology is a poor one. I doubt anyone here who plays sports likes playing in uncompetative games. I wouldnt want to play with somebody so bad he has to dribble with two hands. However in poker I love playing with people who don't know how many cards are in a deck.
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
I agree. Usually a half-joking "one player to a hand guys" should be plenty, just make sure the dealer hears it. You're not looking to drive away the fish by being a jerk.
Actually, that could lead to a possible new poker definition... Nits - JERKS who drive away the fish and ruin the game by being super picky about stupid chit, thus making general nuisances of themselves. al |
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
I wouldn't let that slide. I would say "hey one player to a hand". If it continues call the floor.
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
no way I let this slide.
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
I would let it slide. If they are total Muppets, I would let it slide and not give it a second thought. YMMV.
Best of Luck Howard |
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Re: Table talk / collusion -- let it slide?
Thanks for your thoughts.
For the rest of the session I protected my cards so darn well that I could barely see them. They were indeed Muppets, although the wife was out for my blood because I raised her blind a couple times. A few hands later she practically threw her rockets at me after smooth-calling a raise from the small blind with four limpers and check-calling all the way against my TPMK. He seemed like a much better player, but was a bit weak-tight. I'll be back there, and since they seemed like regulars I'll keep my eyes and ears open and say something if it happens again. |
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