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I'm still new to MTTs and was wondering if these were good situations to push in. I had just moved to the table and don't have too good a read. Table seemed standard without overly aggressive players. I would appreciate your comments.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter Hero (t4115) UTG (t3260) UTG+1 (t7095) MP1 (t7360) MP2 (t4325) MP3 (t4985) CO (t9015) Button (t2685) SB (t12440) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t600, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2685</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4115</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds. Second hand came up after I lost the first hand. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter Hero (t1330) Button (t2760) SB (t6095) BB (t7360) UTG (t4825) UTG+1 (t5685) MP1 (t9015) MP2 (t6270) MP3 (t11940) Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1330</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t830. |
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in both cases you called a raise/reraise with what I think could be an inferior hand. (maybe not to a raise the first time, but the raise and reraise and at BEST you're 50/50) -
what's wrong with just calling and seeing if the flop hurts/improves your hand? - in the first situation I don't think you're short stacked enough to do a reraise all in with Q's - in the second spot, you are short stacked enough, but it's probably still not a smart move if you aren't the initial raiser - a large part of going all in or pushing is being the first one and having position to do it - RB |
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Thank you, I appreciate the input. If I had AA in the first situation, would that still be a call versus a reraise or all in?
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1st push: good.
2nd: Very bad push. He has to call you with anything. The best case scenario is a coinflip or AQ. You're just too often dominated in this hand to make this push good. However, if everyone folded to you and you open-pushed, it would be fine. You still have some time to find a better spot. |
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you see, Jablue...here's my thoughts as I expressed above -
it's been popped and repopped. Now, at BEST, one of them has AK - and if you're lucky, the other one has an A or K and has reduced the outs - I'm not super duper comfy pushing all in here unless I know the raiser and reraiser are overaggressive - but I can't tell that from the post - one raise, absolutely - a raise/reraise....well....I think he's beaten by AA/KK. Let's see if he tells us how he lost the hand. It's the reraise that makes me go hmmm... and hell, he did get it heads up....so it partially worked - but the 2nd all in had a big hand, I'm guessing...or a 50/50 - RB RB |
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WhiskeyTown: I think your hand range for the repopper is way too narrow. He has 2600. The bet is 600 to him. He should be pushing with a lot more hands here than just AA,KK, and AK. I would expect JJ, 1010, AK, AQ to push here and that's still kind of narrow. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see 99, 88, or 77.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see 99, 88, or 77. [/ QUOTE ] An aggressive player could even make this move with suited connectors. Even if the blinds folded, this would be a very hard call for the original raiser, since there is another caller yet to act. Harrington describes this pretty well in HoH, I think he calls it the squeeze move or the sandwich effect. -Magnus |
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Could you please tell me the name of this book, and is it good? How does it compare to Sklansky's TPFAP?
What all does it cover? Thank you. |
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I guess my thinking was push to get the other two out, is this a bad idea? If I just call do you think the other two would probably fold. He had A K o. K on turn, A on river.
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This is why I don't want to push the other 2 out. Flat calling behind may entice 1 or both of the 2 other players into the pot where you may get sucked out and lose your whole atck but you also give yourself a chance to win a nice sidepot and maybe even triple up here. At this point in the tourny its a chance I'm usually willing to take to get a big stack and try and get deep into the money. If you were already in the money and deeper into the tourny then I would reraise all in to try and isolate against the shorter stack. Just my opinion.
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