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Old 01-27-2005, 09:26 PM
jimdmcevoy jimdmcevoy is offline
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Default Is Torture Justified?

I don't usually post here, but I wanted to hear people's opinions about this

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...sex_vs_faith_7

If this is true, which wouldn't suprise me, does anyone think this should or should not be done?
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Is Torture Justified?

Some of this stuff is disgusting, but to have an effective interrogation tactics, you need to put the prisoners under duress.

How likely is it torture someone who had not done anything at all?

How far should they be allowed to go in this world?
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Old 01-28-2005, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Is Torture Justified?

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Some of this stuff is disgusting, but to have an effective interrogation tactics, you need to put the prisoners under duress.

How likely is it torture someone who had not done anything at all?

How far should they be allowed to go in this world?

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Ok then. What would you think if next time you or someone you know were arrested for ANY reason, you were subjected to torture because you must know SOMETHING about SOMEONE.

Stupidity. Barely worse than the Germans in WWII.

Again, clear this up for me; this is the country we are SAVING?
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:13 PM
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"The female interrogator wanted to "break him," Saar adds, describing how she removed her uniform top to expose a tight-fitting T-shirt and began taunting the detainee, touching her breasts, rubbing them against the prisoner's back and commenting on his apparent erection."


Sorry but that doesn't sound like torture to me.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Is Torture Justified?

Heh, what happens when the thing you believe the most in is completely trampled?

There are many ways to torture someone without beating and lynching them.

(deleted for bad example)

Oh, and while making this post, I just realized something.... Could this be counted as sexual assault, since the prisoner was (I assume) restrained?
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:58 PM
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Whatever...it isn't TORTURE.

Perfect example of failing to differentiate adequately.

And as for "What happens when the thing you believe in most is trampled?", well, welcome to the real world. Happens all the time, happens to everyone. The things I believed in most, loved most, and wished for most, were trampled by Life itself. Do I have a case.
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:48 AM
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Okay, maybe the word 'torture' wasn't the correct word.

Let's call it 'interogation tactics' if you'd prefer.

But let me get this straight, you reckon because you have experienced extreme mental pain, this gives liscense to interogaters to inflict extreme mental pain on prisinors?
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:01 AM
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Far from it. In fact, I think they frequently go hand-in-glove. It's just good to see the American "conservative" movement finally coming clean about what it really stands for.



What do you think their ultimate goals are???

How sinister do you think GWB is???

What evidence do you have to support and suppositions on this??
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Is Torture Justified?

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Okay, maybe the word 'torture' wasn't the correct word.

Let's call it 'interogation tactics' if you'd prefer.

But let me get this straight, you reckon because you have experienced extreme mental pain, this gives liscense to interogaters to inflict extreme mental pain on prisinors?

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No, and I did not intend to suggest that. I was just pointing out that "trampling the things one holds most dear" (or whatever the exact words might have been) is not torture either--and it also happens to be a fairly commonplace occurrence dished out by life itself. In other words, humans can do a lot of far worse things to others than merely "trampling that which is held most dear (ideologically".
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:43 PM
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The US should not allow torture to be used, ever. It is not even an effective method of finding information since people will say whatever they can if the pain is bad enough. So if its basically useless, the US should not further destroy its moral credibility.
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