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I can’t read maniacs
I had played one other hand against villain a few hours ago. He completed with a ten up, I re-raise with an ace up, he 3-bet, I capped. I bet on 4th and he calls. On 5th, I make open aces, he makes open deuces. I bet, he calls and makes a boat on 6th to beat my trip aces.
Given this info, how’d I play it? My river cap is crazy, yeah? Who 3-bets 5th? Who slows down earlier? 7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter) 3rd Street - (1.00 SB) Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (3.50 SB) Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___raises 5th Street - (5.75 BB) Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises 6th Street - (9.75 BB) Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets River - (11.75 BB) Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises___calls Total pot: (19.75 BB) |
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Re: I can’t read maniacs
I like everything. The cap on 7th is close given your description but if it is wrong, its not a huge mistake.
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Re: I can’t read maniacs
The river cap depends on the kind of maniac. I've played with players who are hyper-aggressive on 3rd-5th, but who know appropriate value calling/betting/raising on the river. Others are just maniacs the whole way. Knowing that there are some of the former type out there helps to save some money.
Otherwise, I like how you played it. You got a little more money in when you were probably ahead or only somewhat behind. Accepting the higher variance is definitely a winning proposition against this kind of player. If he had 9-10 for hole cards or filled up on the river... that sucks. But I think you played it right (except for the river cap, which is player-dependent). |
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Re: I can’t read maniacs
I like it. Generally on fifth I call down against maniacs if I'm unimproved. Against a true maniac, capping is great, but as the previous poster stated, you need to know that this is the kind of opponent who would reraise with something weak like a pair or two pair.
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Re: I can’t read maniacs
Lots of maniacs like to go into hyper-bluff mode after they have laid a beating on you. On fourth he is trying to tell you he has trip queens - I think I would start to believe him about the same time it appears you did. Could still by a bluff though.
I think I play it the same way including the river cap. He is not nutty enough to raise fourth with a 9 T 8 Q is he? |
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RESULTS
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He is not nutty enough to raise fourth with a 9 T 8 Q is he? [/ QUOTE ] Exactly what I was thinking. Unfortunately though, the answer is „yes he is“. Villain shows: [ 9s Jd 8d Qs Jc 7s Ts ] and takes it down. |
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Re: RESULTS
Well this guy redefines the art of chasing a gut shot straight then. His play on fourth is unreal, but consistent with my hyper bluff comment. Too bad it worked for him.
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Re: RESULTS
It's good that it worked for him. He will be reinforced for poor play. And that is how profit is made for those with a mortgage.
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Re: RESULTS
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It's good that it worked for him. He will be reinforced for poor play. [/ QUOTE ] Ya - it's nice of Roland to be funding the training program for these guys. |
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Re: I can’t read maniacs
i would have bet out on the river (hoping to get to re-raise), but it worked out the way you wanted it to anyway.
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