Hand from Stars $10R

TxDozerMan · #1 08-31-2005, 12:47 PM

CO seems like a pretty straight forward player, nothing tricky. My image is probably pretty LAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t4445)
BB (t3525)
UTG (t6225)
UTG+1 (t28240)
MP1 (t2125)
Hero (t33925)
MP3 (t14485)
CO (t17220)
Button (t3775)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t600, 1 fold, CO raises to t1400, 3 folds, Hero calls t800.

Flop: (t2975) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t2400, CO raises to t4800, Hero ??.

I know the pf raise/call is questionable, but I don't want people coming over me pf unless it is a big raise.

Is betting out on this flop good/bad? What do you make of the min raise?

Chief911 · #2 08-31-2005, 01:04 PM

I'm a fish, but I take a slightly different line.

I'd call his raise preflop.

I'd check/call a medium sized bet on that flop, and see where I'm at on the turn.

Nick

TxDozerMan · #3 08-31-2005, 02:05 PM

Just so I understand your thoughts, are you check calling here for pot control purposes, or to get overcards to put in money?

Edit: Facing a pot sized bet do you feel you need to improve to win?

DireWolf · #4 08-31-2005, 03:36 PM

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I'm a fish, but I take a slightly different line.

I'd call his raise preflop.

I'd check/call a medium sized bet on that flop, and see where I'm at on the turn.

Nick

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I think this might be a nice time to check-call the flop, lead the turn.

TxDozerMan · #5 08-31-2005, 05:12 PM

Chief I like your line much better here, I think leading out was a problem because I let the pot get too big with a mediocre holding.

Is everyone right about the pf raise? Maybe I am crazy but with a deep stack my goal is to see lots of flops with better info on my opponent's hand than he has on mine.

Chief911 · #6 08-31-2005, 05:31 PM

Tx,

What you do preflop with this hand depends alot on how well you play post-flop. I think I'd probably throw this away a lot with the blinds this low. If its suited I'd be slightly more tempted.

Once you get mixed into it though, I think I want to manage the pot as much as I can to see two more cards. I think if I catch a 9, or J, I'm stacking here.

Nick

DireWolf · #7 08-31-2005, 05:34 PM

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Once you get mixed into it though, I think I want to manage the pot as much as I can to see two more cards. I think if I catch a 9, or J, I'm stacking here.

Nick

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if you catch one 9 or J total, or if you catch another one?

Chief911 · #8 08-31-2005, 05:39 PM

Another. So, if I can check/call a 1k bet on this flop, I'm gonna do it. VERY few people would fire the second barrel if they have overcards and dont hit on the turn. And a check behind on the turn tells me all I need to know about the hand.

Nick

#9 08-31-2005, 02:25 PM

I'm laying this one down.. Re-raise before flop and then re-raise after flop.. If he's a pretty straight forward player this could only mean one thing

TxDozerMan · #10 08-31-2005, 03:42 PM

I agree, I bet the flop to refine my range which preflop was AQs,AK,QQ-AA. I feel he will call with AK, raise with QQ-AA and fold the rest. The min-raise PF, along with min-raise of flop bet put my range squarely on AA/KK. Is it worth calling the $2400 more to stack him on a favorable turn?