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KK on this turn
Both villains are semei-loose and semi-aggressive
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (16 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds. Turn: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero ? |
#2
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Re: KK on this turn
You need to bet the turn to see where you are at.
Once you bet, if they simply cold-call, then you are probably still ahead. If MP1 raises, then I would fold. He probably has you beat. If MP2 raises, then I might call depending upon what hand you put him on. His raise pre-flop suggests a PP smaller than yours or two overcards. The only thing he might have is two suited (spades) overcards, where the turn gave him the flush, so again, it depends upon your knoweldge of MP2 as to what he might raise with. The worst thing to do here is check. The last thing you want to do is give your opponents a chance a free miracle card. |
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Re: KK on this turn
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You need to bet the turn to see where you are at. Once you bet, if they simply cold-call, then you are probably still ahead. If MP1 raises, then I would fold. He probably has you beat. If MP2 raises, then I might call depending upon what hand you put him on. His raise pre-flop suggests a PP smaller than yours or two overcards. The only thing he might have is two suited (spades) overcards, where the turn gave him the flush, so again, it depends upon your knoweldge of MP2 as to what he might raise with. The worst thing to do here is check. The last thing you want to do is give your opponents a chance a free miracle card. [/ QUOTE ] you know any spade gives you the second nuts right? |
#4
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Re: KK on this turn
Folding the turn here is horrible.
-d |
#5
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Re: KK on this turn
I would bet. If raised, I think I have to call and see if the spade drops. king high is pretty good in my book.
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#6
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Re: KK on this turn
Hmm I think that I would bet because I have no reason to assume I am behind yet and the board is super scary so you would think that betting would be bettor if someone had a str8 or flush and even if check raised you still have outs. Plus you have to give them a chance to draw to the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#7
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Re: KK on this turn
You are almost certainly beat here. Your only GUARANTEED out is the Ace of spades, otherwise, if any other spade falls, anybody holding the Ace(spades)-rag has you beat.
Also, because your playing with many opponents, your drawing hard against anybody with a 4 or 9. I think this a check/fold. Though you need to protect your hand, it's going to be hard to protect it when nobody's bet yet, when the turn hurt you, when the pot is only moderately big, and because you can still get raised by the people still left in the pot. Check, fold to a bet. |
#8
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Re: KK on this turn
Before pooping your pants because the board is scary at least take the time to wipe and notice that hero is last to act.
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#9
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Re: KK on this turn
Seriously, you'd fold this for 1 bet on the turn?
That's so weak. So very, very, very weak. -d |
#10
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Re: KK on this turn
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You are almost certainly beat here. [/ QUOTE ] Was I the only one who saw this nightmare? What's your reasoning for saying this, that Hero is "almost certainly beat." Is it because his opponents just called the flop and checked the turn to him? You know, come to think of it, that is pretty scary. I'd fold. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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