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Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
How should I continue on the turn in this situation?
The BB has slow played a number of prior hands PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx BB (t2309) Hero (t2868) SB (t3823) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB calls t250, BB calls t200. Flop: (t900) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t900</font>, SB folds, BB calls t900. Turn: (t2700) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, On the flop, I would normally bet between 1/2 the pot up to the full pot. In this case, I chose to pot it because of the draw heavy board, and I'm happy to take it down right away. Once BB calls this bet, and the straight card comes on the turn, how should you respond to his check? Thanks for the input. Jonathan |
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Re: Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
Personally I just try to check/call it down cheap and fold to any real bet. Yes he might draw out on you, but I think much more often you're already beat here and you're just throwing money down a hole with a big turn or river bet. IE - he folds 33, but calls anything that has you beat.
I like the 6x$35s on PS. I like when it gets to HU quick and you really get to play some poker. Not 100% thrilled to know there's 2+2ers on there [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] -Matt |
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Re: Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
Yes, I like the 6 handed games too.
A larger % of the prize pool goes for first place so there is a premium on heads up play. In the hand in question, I am always torn about whether or not to give a free card. My initial reaction to your line is that it is "weak-tight" and gives weaker hands an opportunity to draw out. But, on the other hand..... you could easily lose most of your stack in this situation. That's why I'm wondering how others handle it. Suerte, Jonathan |
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Re: Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
I'm struggling with these spots too...Here is my default lines:
A) against a sneaky player - get to showdown CHEAPLY B) Against an aggressive/sheriff player - block bet city C) weak-tighty - bet it and fold if raised ...but I'm looking foward to seeing better responses 'cuz I have trouble here. |
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Re: Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
I think the 6x$35s are *generally* of the #3 variety. They like being able to play more hands than the full tables, they don't mind getting into a long, intense 3-handed/HU battle, and they don't like turbo. IE - they aren't 8-tabling pro-bots (probots - I like that). So barring any specific reads, I would assume weakish-tightish.
As far as block bets, he's first to act. He's already checked the turn. Just check, see what falls and he does on the river, then decide. OP, what did you do on the turn and what was the river card (assuming you saw it). One other thing, I seem to get in a lot of trouble with TPTK where TP = 6-9 or so, in a 3-4 way pot. It just never seems to work out and I can't ever push everyone out. Could be something there. |
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Actual play and results
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
BB (t2309) Hero (t2868) SB (t3823) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB calls t250, BB calls t200. Flop: (t900) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t900</font>, SB folds, BB calls t900. Turn: (t2700) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1668 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1109 (All-In). River: (t5477) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font> Final Pot: t5477 some problem with converter....Villain showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] __________________________________________________ _____ So in hindsight you were all right that I should have slowed down and checked right behind. Especially since he had shown himself earlier to be a sneaky player. But it is so so difficult for me to give what may be a free card to beat me. I have to learn to handle this type of fluid situation. Thanks for the responses. Suerte, Jonathan |
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Re: Actual play and results
Yeah it looks like you got called by the one of those hands that had you beat we talked about. It's fine to push people off free cards, but you want to be pretty sure you already have the best hand. Which I'd be very doubtful of, once he called the 900 bet.
And even if you are pretty sure you have the best hand, you only need to bet enough to make it a bad decision for him to call (see HoH I). You don't need to go all-in everytime just because you're scared of one card. If your opponent is calling you w/o the correct odds, in the long run that's going to hurt him and help you. Although in the short run, it can be very frustrating when he draws out on you. |
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Re: Stars $35 6-handed....Turn play?
There is a variety of hands he could have here, possible set? possibility he may have a small overpair on the board...after the turn I would slow down a bit, my guess is an overpair on the board, or a flush draw...but i would check right after him after the turn and try and check it down...
dougan |
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