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An effective odds case on the turn? Do I figure on actually 20-4 odds (18 pot + 2 more on the river) that it becomes less than my 40-6 odds (2 J, 2 T,(boat) 2 Q (chop)) for the FH? But then the expected pot wouldn't be 20 - more like 16. Is there a fold here?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls. Flop: (12 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks. Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls. River: (22 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, SB calls. Final Pot: 24 BB |
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Well on the turn you have to call or raise the first bet, and then after it is raised and three bet you have to call based on odds.
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This is all fine.
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Fold the turn. I don't see how this can be fine.
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#5
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Boat outs and chopping straight outs. Did you read the hand?
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Absolutely, and in this tiny pot with possibly tainted boat outs plus diminished chop potential and the possibility of the turn ending up being a raise fest this is not a profitable situation. Count the other players in the hand. You haven't even made a good two pair! Seriously this is a definite fold.
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Hero's getting 8:1 then 7:1 then a bajillion to one for his 3 calls on the turn. The pot is not "tiny" at any of those points.
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This is all fine. [/ QUOTE ] No, it's not. Folding to the first bet on the turn is prudent. 6:1 is not proper odds for a 4-outer, and Hero very likely has less than 4 outs on average. Besides, it's going to get check-raised more than just a small % of the time, which makes your effective odds worse than 6:1. It is a common mistake among decent players to not consider the fact that they're not closing the action. This is a great example of why you need to be aware of this. |
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I am officially a fish.
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I am officially a fish. [/ QUOTE ] |
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