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Another SS post....Micro views rock!
Here's another post from SS that probably didn't get the attention it deserved.
Just like the other one I posted the other day, B WEBB (SS poster) and I agreed but the rest had different views. I even disagreed with Entity [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] . UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666"> 2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666"> 1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666"> 1 fold</font>, <font color="red"> SB raises </font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red"> UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (16 SB) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] , 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players) <font color="red"> SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red"> UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666"> MP2 folds </font>, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (12 BB) J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players) SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red"> UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666"> UTG folds</font>. River: (15 BB) Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) SB checks, <font color="red"> UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666"> SB folds </font>. Final Pot: 17 BB What's are your thoughts people? Once again, I'll post my views after a few responses. |
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
I'd probably play it the same way, whether or not it's right.
Is pre-flop a fold, perhaps? Two bets coming back with a hand that is probably dominated by something like AQ, or QQ+. The only reason I can see to play this hand is for straight and flush value. I'd probably play it, but is that really enough here? I'd probably call the river, but I think UTG+1 has a big pair. The only other thing I can see is a vastly overplayed AK. |
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
he should have raised preflop on his own. otherwise he played it right. the river call is probably -EV, but you never know without reads (especially after seeing him limp reraise). what did you disagree with?
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
I was going to mention the possibility of a raise before the flop. Brings me to a question I have regarding that: in general, how many people do you want in before you raise with speculative hands like 10-9, J-10, and Q-10 suited?
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
I'd love one of you to explain why this is right! i really can't see it!
Assuming a sensible 3-betting range (AA-QQ + AKs) from UTG+1 (even with the L-RR) our overcard outs are almost completely dead, and on the flop all we have is b/door flush and straight outs, 2.5 - 3 outs at most! Even with the 10:1 we are getting there it's not enough to call. Mat |
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
That's an awfully tight 3betting range.
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
I am having trouble justifying the flop call. We are getting 9:1 (possibly worse since there is a chance that the small blind might take it upstairs).
I find it hard to believe that our Q or T outs for top pair are good ... I would give them like, .25 outs each and I think .25 is generous. All I see are 2 runner runner draws .. giving them 1.5 outs each we have 3 maaaybe 3.5 outs (maybe less since some of the other players will almost always have some of our outs) and it seems like we need 14:1 odds to justify this call. I guess one could justify making these up in implied odds since UTG+1 isn't giving up his hand any time soon. |
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
--blind response--
I think I find a fold on the flop, since it looks like spiking a Q or T won't do me any good. I also fold the river for the same reason. |
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
Rob is correct on this one. Well played postflop. The pot is just too big to fold with the amount of equity we have.
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Re: Another SS post....Micro views rock!
I said to 3bet the flop.
BTW. There was a little discussion about preflop in SS and most said to raise. |
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