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A9o question
Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (6.00 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero??? Well I called the flop with TP and a backdoor flush draw. Now on the turn the original bettor slowed down and checked while MP3 decides to fire out a bullet. I don't know what to do because UTG+1 has limped with QQ's before and slowplayed them to river against my Jacks where he suddenly decided to c/r on a raggedy board. So in other words his postflop is funky and he's a sandbagger and aggresive. I have no reads on MP3. With that what would be the best line here? |
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Re: A9o question
Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you.
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Re: A9o question
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Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you. [/ QUOTE ] And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws? |
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Re: A9o question
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[ QUOTE ] Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you. [/ QUOTE ] And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws? [/ QUOTE ] Kind of an odd concept here, but do you realize that more than one person can "make money" in a single hand? Edit - not to say I necessarily agree with raising this flop |
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Re: A9o question
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[ QUOTE ] Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you. [/ QUOTE ] And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws? [/ QUOTE ] These hands are going to have odds to draw no matter what you do. Even a flop raise is offering SB 5:1. (Though it faces him with 2 cold, and he may fold. Same goes for BB) The problem with getting involved in a multiway pot with a trash hand like A9o is exactly what you've encountered here. You don't know where you stand, and it may be expensive to get to showdown. The way you played it, you can raise MP3's turn bet, and fold out SB/BB. Check behind on the river UI. |
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Re: A9o question
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Raise the flop. Bet the turn, after it's checked to you. [/ QUOTE ] And pump up the pot (equity) for those with OESD and flush draws? [/ QUOTE ] These hands are going to have odds to draw no matter what you do. Even a flop raise is offering SB 5:1. (Though it faces him with 2 cold, and he may fold. Same goes for BB) The problem with getting involved in a multiway pot with a trash hand like A9o is exactly what you've encountered here. You don't know where you stand, and it may be expensive to get to showdown. The way you played it, you can raise MP3's turn bet, and fold out SB/BB. Check behind on the river UI. [/ QUOTE ] I wasn't talking about odds, I was talking about equity. As far as the limp goes I knew button was tight so limping would give me the button without having to raise. I believe ATo in late position is a profitable hand, so A9 can't be much worse. |
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I believe ATo in late position is a profitable hand, so A9 can't be much worse. [/ QUOTE ] A9 is much worse than AT, since you can't make a 2-card straight with it. |
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Re: A9o question
Equity on a certain street will only change if someone folds (or if the card *poof* changes). Raising the flop may change your equity, but only if you manage to fold out one of the limpers.
IMO there is a huge difference between ATo and A9o. Not only because of the broadway straight that is possible with AT, but a pair of T's is more likely to win a pot then a pair of 9's. (Blatantly stolen content from SSHE.) |
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Re: A9o question
I fold this preflop. I'm not sure about the flop. As played I think I raise the turn, protecting my hand and taking a free showdown, though I'd like to here what everyone thinks.
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I fold this preflop. I'm not sure about the flop. As played I think I raise the turn, protecting my hand and taking a free showdown, though I'd like to here what everyone thinks. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. A flop raise doesn't protect against a flush draw or OESD. If 3-bet on the turn call and check/fold the river UI. |
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