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[Eevee]

Ok guys heres a trouble hand that i found at PP 50+5.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

MP2 (t315)
CO (t4030)
Button (t1310)
SB (t1540)
BB (t860)
Hero (t1625)
MP1 (t320)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t125) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t300</font>,
Hero?

My buddy Flareon tells me many people do this with flush draw or just the 9...I felt the raise was kinda high...but it might be a good player with a 3 trying to get a flush draw out. Good fold or no?

-EV

I put "Hero?" cus i wasnt sure but I did end up folding..

[valenzuela]

I dont like the fold, I dont like the preflop limp, I dont like the postflop raise( bet more), however I dont play the 55s so my opinion is almost worthless.

[Eevee]

Ok well heres the deal. I was UTG on a pretty loose table...and the one time i limp, everyone folds? Haha maybe they respect my limp. Anyway, I like my limp. Second, I am in the habit of betting 1/2-3/4 pot on the flop depending on my mood or what I had for lunch. I dont think my bet was bad...if i got a mini raise, i would have pushed. But the 300 bet seemed reaaal fishy.
Thoughts, anyone else?

-(+)EV

[mts]

limping is terrible

but you're trying for a limp/reraise/call/trap i assume?
it's not worth it this early, just raise and hope someone plays back at you.

[Eevee]

I dont think people are understanding my play. I was planning on limp reraising. table=loose. Scuba would understand.

+EV

[prepotency]

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I dont think people are understanding my play. I was planning on limp reraising. table=loose. Scuba would understand.

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Congrats, you have read scuba's post(s): this play is too fancy for the strength of your hand and this early in the tourney. If the table is that loose, you run the same risk of getting 6 limpers as you do of getting a significant raise. Furthermore, if the table is loose, you'll get calls on your large PF raise but they would still not hit this board and you can buy the pot on the flop or they'll chase with overs and increase your cash. With a raise on a loose table you'll play agianst hands like AJs and AQo and KJs which is what you want, not a million limpers.
raise PF

[Tilt]

I don't like the limp for precisely the reason you folded.

[Apathy]

I've said this many times, there is almost no spot in the lower limits where you should fold AA on the flop HU, no matter what the flop or the action.

In this hand I think your read is way off, trips are very unlikely, it looks a lot more like a 9 or other PP.

[bigdarren]

To answer the original question. The fold is horrible imop. What hands could he possibly have( that he would raise pre flop ) that would beat you at this moment? And if he had one (99, 3x), why would he raise so early and large? Your limp has worked to perfection and you folded to his large, muscle you out, bet. Definatly push... and double up [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[prepotency]

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To answer the original question. The fold is horrible imop. What hands could he possibly have( that he would raise pre flop ) that would beat you at this moment? And if he had one (99, 3x), why would he raise so early and large?

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What the eff are you talking about. He was in BB and got to see the flop for free.