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Old 08-08-2005, 10:00 AM
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Default Did Ernie mess this up?

Ernie and I have been up all night, among other things, playing online poker. The game has been loose and somewhat aggressive. We argued a lot about this one.

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Preflop: Ernie is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB complets, Ernie checks.

Flop: (6.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Ernie checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc3333">CO raises</font>, SB folds, Ernie calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(4 players)</font>
Ernie checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc3333">CO bets</font>, Ernie calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#cc3333">Ernie bets</font>

Thanks in advance, Bert.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:02 AM
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Bert, you should have mentioned that the CO has been playing really aggressively.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Ernie.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Did Ernie mess this up?

funny thread [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i think the call on the flop is terrible and the call on the turn is bad. ernie is clearly beaten and has maybe 5 outs and no odds to call (on both streets).
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:13 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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I'm really interested to figure out who is behind this coalition of Sesame Street posters. I'd not be surprised at all of it were some bunch of experienced posters starting a whole slew of gimmick accounts, or alternately if it was all one person with some serious psychological issues to work out.

Getting 7.5-2 with 4 clean outs and 3 very, very tenuous ones, I can't think calling the flop is ever correct here. In fact I think it really, really sucks.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Did Ernie mess this up?

Deranged:

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Getting 7.5-2 with 4 clean outs and 3 very, very tenuous ones, I can't think calling the flop is ever correct here. In fact I think it really, really sucks.

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Yip....yip...yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:56 AM
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Deranged:

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Getting 7.5-2 with 4 clean outs and 3 very, very tenuous ones, I can't think calling the flop is ever correct here. In fact I think it really, really sucks.

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Yip....yip...yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip, yip

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Oh, no... MY BOTTLE-CAP COLLECTION!!!
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Old 08-08-2005, 04:20 PM
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I'm really interested to figure out who is behind this coalition of Sesame Street posters. I'd not be surprised at all of it were some bunch of experienced posters starting a whole slew of gimmick accounts, or alternately if it was all one person with some serious psychological issues to work out.

Getting 7.5-2 with 4 clean outs and 3 very, very tenuous ones, I can't think calling the flop is ever correct here. In fact I think it really, really sucks.

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What do you think of my river bet?

Ernie.
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Old 08-08-2005, 04:42 PM
Drewboy22 Drewboy22 is offline
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Default Re: Did Ernie mess this up?

Wow. I always pegged Ernie as weak tight.

River bet is OK...but you should never have called 2 cold on the flop.

What do you do if Snuffleufugus re-raises you?
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Old 08-08-2005, 04:46 PM
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Wow. I always pegged Ernie as weak tight.

River bet is OK...but you should never have called 2 cold on the flop.

What do you do if Snuffleufugus re-raises you?

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Bert is the weak/tight one.

You think the river bet is okay because you think I have the best hand now? But how is that consistent with folding on the flop?
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Did Ernie mess this up?

You need to fold the flop facing to bets and holding nothing but a gutshot. You can't even be sure your ace is good if it does hit. You simply do not have the odds to stay in the hand.

Same goes for the turn.

If you believe the ace is going to win the hand for you on the river, and that the CO is really aggressive, why not check raise instead of donk betting?
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