AK too crazy?

#1 09-22-2005, 02:12 AM

Typical weak-tight/loose 0.50/1 table

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets, CO folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Think this is one of my bigger leaks, going too far with AK. Especilly here with 2 clubs on the board, and none in my hand. My gut instinct tells me to raise the flop to get rid of people, hope for a free card, and plus I got the gutshot brewing.

#2 09-22-2005, 02:23 AM

i like it. i would slow down if someone raised but since they're just calling i think it's fine to keep betting. on the flop, the raise is good for the reasons you stated. on the turn, you probably have the best hand and mp2 and bb might be calling with a q or a j. same thing on the river.

#3 09-22-2005, 03:47 AM

I play this hand the same and I also believe it may be a leak.

adsman · #4 09-22-2005, 04:03 AM

I just call the flop.

ArturiusX · #5 09-22-2005, 05:35 AM

I really dislike the flop raise. What are you trying to achieve?

Rest is fine and standard.

#6 09-22-2005, 05:17 PM

He's raising for a free card...
If that 2 flush wasnt there this would be an optimal situation for a freecard play. However I still think its the right play.

bozlax · #7 09-22-2005, 05:46 PM

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I really dislike the flop raise. What are you trying to achieve?

Rest is fine and standard.

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From the OP:

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My gut instinct tells me to raise the flop to get rid of people, hope for a free card, and plus I got the gutshot brewing.

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I don't do it without some good reads on the people to my left, but based on the OP's reasoning, above, I don't hate the raise.

ArturiusX · #8 09-22-2005, 08:45 PM

I think we're shooting our implied odds in the ass by raising here, and introducing ourselves to being trapped with this hand.

TredWel · #9 09-22-2005, 08:54 PM

How are we trapped with the hand? I've got no problem folding if we don't hit our hand by the river. If villain 3-bets us, we can call and reevaluate the turn. It shouldn't be hard to get away from A-high if we don't improve.

I'm not worried about implied odds, either. We've got a weak draw here, and the pot is big. Raise, clean up our overcards, and get a cheap look at two more cards.

MATT111 · #10 09-22-2005, 06:16 AM

I am not sure about the flop raise.
It`s good against passive opposition though.

1) You may be ahead
2) It may get you afree card if you want 1
3) It very likely folds pocket pairs