$55's... Hey dude, what did you have for lunch today?... SANDWICH!

bigt439 · #1 11-08-2005, 07:41 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t4915)
Button (t1785)
SB (t3300)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t800</font>, SB calls t600, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4915 (All-In)</font>

Sexy? His minraise is sketch.

bawcerelli · #2 11-08-2005, 07:44 PM

he's getting odds to call you. there's no bubble. he's an idiot if he folded.

Hendricks433 · #3 11-08-2005, 07:46 PM

Half of his stack is in the Pot with a call from SB. Hes easily getting 2-1 on his money. Is he really gonna fold?

bigt439 · #4 11-08-2005, 07:59 PM

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Half of his stack is in the Pot with a call from SB. Hes easily getting 2-1 on his money. Is he really gonna fold?

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What? I know the button is not going to fold... ?

break0ut · #5 11-08-2005, 07:48 PM

seems awful is this one of the 5 dollar ventures? must be if he would fold here

#6 11-08-2005, 07:54 PM

I am not sure of $50 games because I only play at the $20 games but you have a not good hand and bad guy has a better hand. Are you hoping for another 4? It is not likely to arrive. Well sometimes but not oftin.

kyro · #7 11-08-2005, 08:01 PM

I read the first three replies and now I'm confused.

I thought the point of the raise was to get SB to fold and now have more dead money in the pot?

*Edit* Just read bigt's reply. That's what I thought. FWIW, I think this is pretty mandatory.

pooh74 · #8 11-08-2005, 08:04 PM

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I read the first three replies and now I'm confused.

I thought the point of the raise was to get SB to fold and now have more dead money in the pot?

*Edit* Just read bigt's reply. That's what I thought. FWIW, I think this is pretty mandatory.

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Yeah exactly...Dead money makes this good...what worries me (would worry me) and Bigt mentioned this, is the minraise from button?!?! Makes me think I might possibly need a lot more dead loot in the middle to do this...In game time I'd probably push though...bad SB for calling...bad sb

bigt439 · #9 11-08-2005, 11:59 PM

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I read the first three replies and now I'm confused.

I thought the point of the raise was to get SB to fold and now have more dead money in the pot?

*Edit* Just read bigt's reply. That's what I thought. FWIW, I think this is pretty mandatory.

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Yeah exactly...Dead money makes this good...what worries me (would worry me) and Bigt mentioned this, is the minraise from button?!?! Makes me think I might possibly need a lot more dead loot in the middle to do this...In game time I'd probably push though...bad SB for calling...bad sb

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Arg. This is exactly what I was trying to get at. I have no idea how this discussion got so off course. I'll send it through one more time.

pooh74 · #10 11-09-2005, 02:12 AM

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I read the first three replies and now I'm confused.

I thought the point of the raise was to get SB to fold and now have more dead money in the pot?

*Edit* Just read bigt's reply. That's what I thought. FWIW, I think this is pretty mandatory.

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Yeah exactly...Dead money makes this good...what worries me (would worry me) and Bigt mentioned this, is the minraise from button?!?! Makes me think I might possibly need a lot more dead loot in the middle to do this...In game time I'd probably push though...bad SB for calling...bad sb

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Arg. This is exactly what I was trying to get at. I have no idea how this discussion got so off course. I'll send it through one more time.

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No, i know, dude its tough...If I was shortie, and my read on you was that you were a solid thinking opponent...I might min raise here with a medium hand because good players tend to think "he has like 4BBs, why is he minraising? he must have KK+ so Ill fold"....So who knows...

So, we have two possibilities:

1. He is minraising with crap trying to rep something big in which case your isolation is a good play for all of the obvious reasons or..

2. He has a big hand that dominates yours. But even here, is teaming up with SB gonna help anyway? I STILL like coming over the top because it makes no difference really (0r, not enough difference to justify not doing it, given the times you want him isolated...see #1...because we don't see his cards).

Keep in mind many players know that we think a minraise with 5bbs or less means trouble so they are trying it more often...so, this move will begin to backfire...I certainly dont respect it (never have really).