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Old 07-25-2005, 10:24 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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Default Berating the fish?

It's amazing how often i got berated at 30/60 SH. Often by decent players which surprises me much. 'Russian scum', 'f u, idiot', 'nh, donk', 'mentality of peasants', 'go but some bread on that money' etc..

I had never seen such 'names' at lower limits and i really can't understand why some good players thinking my play sucks keep remind me of it and don't simply add me to their buddy list.

Any thoughts?

Is it psycho-trick or something to make opponent nervious and make more mistakes? Does your game change against berator?
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:30 PM
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Berating the fish?

It's probably because of your BB defensive, i get it a lot after i've shown a BB defensive hand like T5o etc.

It's def. not a strategy of 30/60 players it's just because of the amounts of money and ego at stake for these players.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:25 PM
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First, and I'm sure you know this, don't take the berating personally. Don't let it influence your judgement.
Second, be on the lookout for taking advantage of the berator -- they're on tilt and if you make a big hand, bet for value or set the mighty trap.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:47 AM
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It's probably because of your BB defensive, i get it a lot after i've shown a BB defensive hand like T5o etc.

It's def. not a strategy of 30/60 players it's just because of the amounts of money and ego at stake for these players.

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Old 07-25-2005, 11:27 PM
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Is it psycho-trick or something to make opponent nervious and make more mistakes? Does your game change against berator?

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Generally I assume they're more likely to steam, but that's about it. I've never been berated for more than a couple of hands, though. I imagine I'd make adjustments if I felt like someone was deliberately trying to target me.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:35 PM
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I imagine I'd make adjustments if I felt like someone was deliberately trying to target me.

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Do you still betting KT on 27Q flop when you're on steal and he defends or you show the great weakness by once in last countless times checking this flop, the thing that im think they want you to?

In SH you can't wait for a hand too much. Blinds make your waiting -ev. I don't know if im right but i start to play against them more aggressive than i used to: angering them more if im getting lucky and making them happy if they do.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:44 PM
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I imagine I'd make adjustments if I felt like someone was deliberately trying to target me.

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Do you still betting KT on 27Q flop when you're on steal and he defends or you show the great weakness by once in last countless times checking this flop, the thing that im think they want you to?

In SH you can't wait for a hand too much. Blinds make your waiting -ev. I don't know if im right but i start to play against them more aggressive than i used to: angering them more if im getting lucky and making them happy if they do.

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I've never really experienced it so I'm not quite sure how I'd react, although the obvious thing is that I'm more likely to call with marginal hands or just get to showdown cheap if they start playing hyper-aggressively HU against me.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:53 PM
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although the obvious thing is that I'm more likely to call with marginal hands or just get to showdown cheap

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It's not that obvious i think.

The thing is that this fact make you incredibly predictable and they like it really.

They angering when you unpredictable, i.e. raising turn for free SD, catching your card on river and extract more bets when you was behind on turn, making thin value bets with trashy pair against their strong missed the flop AK etc...

I can't see a reason to start to try get to SD cheeper than you usually try when they obviously prepared to make precisely against you so _predictable_ moves with much more hands than usually.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:23 AM
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My presumption was that they are laggro steaming.
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