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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 ante 25 (8 handed)
MP1 (t4290) MP2 (t6825) MP3 (t28265) Hero is CO (t11765) Button (t9515) SB (t4200) BB (t15200) Villain is UTG (t19810) UTG+1 (t16836) Dealt to Hero [Ks Ad] Villain calls 200, fold, MP1 calls 200, fold, MP3 raises 200 to 400 Hero raises 800 to 1200, folded to Villain who calls, all others fold *** FLOP *** [Tc Kd Ts] Villain checks Hero bets 2500 Villain raises 2500 to 5000 Hero ??? This is after the first break and my stack is about average. |
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Villain is UTG (t19810) UTG+1 (t16836) Dealt to Hero [Ks Ad] Villain calls 200, fold, MP1 calls 200, fold, MP3 raises 200 to 400 Hero raises 800 to 1200, folded to Villain who calls, all others fold *** FLOP *** [Tc Kd Ts] Villain checks Hero bets 2500 Villain raises 2500 to 5000 Hero shrugs and pulls the trigger This is after the first break and my stack is about average. [/ QUOTE ] If he has the Ten, shouldn't he smooth-call here? I'm betting he either has a king or this is just a weak bluff to push you off a non-paired hand. CSC |
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I hate pushing the flop there. Why not just call and let him committ himself on the turn? What are you trying to accomplish with your raise that you can't accomplish on the turn?
As a side note, how in the world can our opponent have a ten? Does he call the raise (not closing the action with a minraiser and a few limpers still left to act behind him?) preflop with AT or JTs? Does he call twice preflop with KK/AA? Not a chance (well, a small chance). He's almost certainly drawing thin here, and he seems to want to give away his chips, so I'm not going to let him off the hook by pushing this flop. |
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I hate pushing the flop there. Why not just call and let him committ himself on the turn? What are you trying to accomplish with your raise that you can't accomplish on the turn? As a side note, how in the world can our opponent have a ten? Does he call the raise (not closing the action with a minraiser and a few limpers still left to act behind him?) preflop with AT or JTs? Does he call twice preflop with KK/AA? Not a chance (well, a small chance). He's almost certainly drawing thin here, and he seems to want to give away his chips, so I'm not going to let him off the hook by pushing this flop. [/ QUOTE ] $11 rebuy, Sossman? ATs is A GOOD HAND OMG WTF LOLZ!!!!! Edit: some donks also consider JTs to be a good hand. |
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[ QUOTE ] I hate pushing the flop there. Why not just call and let him committ himself on the turn? What are you trying to accomplish with your raise that you can't accomplish on the turn? As a side note, how in the world can our opponent have a ten? Does he call the raise (not closing the action with a minraiser and a few limpers still left to act behind him?) preflop with AT or JTs? Does he call twice preflop with KK/AA? Not a chance (well, a small chance). He's almost certainly drawing thin here, and he seems to want to give away his chips, so I'm not going to let him off the hook by pushing this flop. [/ QUOTE ] $11 rebuy, Sossman? ATs is A GOOD HAND OMG WTF LOLZ!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] (a small chance)...there are about 9 bazillion hands that he's doing this with that we are killing. |
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Oh, I'm certainly not advocating folding. I've found that the guys who like to check-minraise with their monsters tend to slowplay them on later streets. But I swear that's all the new rage, I see it all the time. I would not be surprised at all if Villian had the made boat here. So I just want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible, which means check-calling IMO.
Actually on second thought if Villian checks both the turn and river, I think the river can be value bet. |
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CSC: When you say pull the trigger, do you mean go back over the top or just call?
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CSC: When you say pull the trigger, do you mean go back over the top or just call? [/ QUOTE ] I think he means push. If he has the Ten, so be it since our read says he'd just be smooth calling here. It's likely that he might be semi-bluff raising QJ, or "value" raising KQ here, trying to push you off a hand. |
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Since the only hand we're worried about giving a free card to is QJ, I think I like calling in this spot and getting allin on the turn, since we have position on him.
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Any reads on the Villian.
Can we even put Villian on something like QJs? He would limp UTG, call a raise, and re-raise? There are not many hands he can realistically call with Pre-flop because MP3 may raise again. Unless you have reads that he will make terrible PF calls. A hand such as AA or KK should be limp-raising PF when the action gets to him. ATs would be unrealistic in most cases too. So what's the read on the villian? |
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