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QQ UTG vs. good players
MP2 and BB are solid aggressive players, SB is a LAG caller donk. My image this session is tight and unusually aggro (VPIP of something like 15% and PFR of 11%).
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG+2 ($158.05) MP1 ($558.35) MP2 ($269.80) MP3 ($98) CO ($220.25) Button ($216.45) SB ($66.30) BB ($112.85) Hero ($171.40) UTG+1 ($119.60) Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $7, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $6, BB calls $5. Flop: ($28) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero ? |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
Wow, tough spot. You've still got MP2 to act and if you're going to continue with this hand I think you have to raise. Once you raise though, you'll probably be going to the felt if you decide to take it to showdown. I probably raise this to $50 and fold to a re-raise.
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
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Wow, tough spot. You've still got MP2 to act and if you're going to continue with this hand I think you have to raise. Once you raise though, you'll probably be going to the felt if you decide to take it to showdown. I probably raise this to $50 and fold to a re-raise. [/ QUOTE ] minraise? granted i know it's a sizeable raise, but doesnt this seem sketchy? |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
I've been thinking about this one for a while. I think I want a cheap showdown. I think I call here with plans to call down decent bets (bets I would have made anyway). I think we are up against 99-JJ or the wheel. If you are raise (which is not a bad play) and are called then you have committed your stack to the hand.
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
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I've been thinking about this one for a while. I think I want a cheap showdown. I think I call here with plans to call down decent bets (bets I would have made anyway). I think we are up against 99-JJ or the wheel. If you are raise (which is not a bad play) and are called then you have committed your stack to the hand. [/ QUOTE ] this is something i need to learn.. calling down with good hands when you're unsure and facing aggression.. normally i'd try to get it all in and hope im not up against KK-AA, 2pr or the set. |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I've been thinking about this one for a while. I think I want a cheap showdown. I think I call here with plans to call down decent bets (bets I would have made anyway). I think we are up against 99-JJ or the wheel. If you are raise (which is not a bad play) and are called then you have committed your stack to the hand. [/ QUOTE ] this is something i need to learn.. calling down with good hands when you're unsure and facing aggression.. normally i'd try to get it all in and hope im not up against KK-AA, 2pr or the set. [/ QUOTE ] This looks like a WA/WB situation. Not many cards are likely to help either one of you so getting to showdown cheap is the way to go. Villain might keep on betting, but most villains under bet their monsters (don't want to scare you off) so you probably get off cheaper when you are behind and if you are ahead you still win a nice pot. If villain checks a blank turn (and we check behind)and a blank river then we have an interesting decision, don't we? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I've been thinking about this one for a while. I think I want a cheap showdown. I think I call here with plans to call down decent bets (bets I would have made anyway). I think we are up against 99-JJ or the wheel. If you are raise (which is not a bad play) and are called then you have committed your stack to the hand. [/ QUOTE ] this is something i need to learn.. calling down with good hands when you're unsure and facing aggression.. normally i'd try to get it all in and hope im not up against KK-AA, 2pr or the set. [/ QUOTE ] This looks like a WA/WB situation. Not many cards are likely to help either one of you so getting to showdown cheap is the way to go. Villain might keep on betting, but most villains under bet their monsters (don't want to scare you off) so you probably get off cheaper when you are behind and if you are ahead you still win a nice pot. If villain checks a blank turn (and we check behind)and a blank river then we have an interesting decision, don't we? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] a blank turn and i think i'm coming out for 2/3 pot. |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I've been thinking about this one for a while. I think I want a cheap showdown. I think I call here with plans to call down decent bets (bets I would have made anyway). I think we are up against 99-JJ or the wheel. If you are raise (which is not a bad play) and are called then you have committed your stack to the hand. [/ QUOTE ] this is something i need to learn.. calling down with good hands when you're unsure and facing aggression.. normally i'd try to get it all in and hope im not up against KK-AA, 2pr or the set. [/ QUOTE ] This seems like a really hard decision for me. I think it becomes much easier with any kind of decent read on villains normal flop bets, b/c I think u are usually against a set or overpair less than yours. Seems like a good/tough player could value bet his set and milk us for some money with "decent bets", or just push sensing weakness from Hero because of lack of aggression. How many people raise this flop and then fold to a push? What do you do when u call flop and villain pushes turn? |
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
i like to raise then fold to a push. many seem to like call fold to a bet but your flat calling the flop will allow an agreesive player continuation bet on the turn which many said they would fold. calling down you probably put about the same amount of money in if you were to raise. i think it may be cheaper to raise here and fold then call the whole way or call and open yourself to a continuation bluff
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Re: QQ UTG vs. good players
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i like to raise then fold to a push. many seem to like call fold to a bet but your flat calling the flop will allow an agreesive player continuation bet on the turn which many said they would fold. calling down you probably put about the same amount of money in if you were to raise. i think it may be cheaper to raise here and fold then call the whole way or call and open yourself to a continuation bluff [/ QUOTE ] If we raise here and villain checks to us on the turn what are you doing? |
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