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Old 11-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default made my straight on the turn.

villain is 48/8 after about 65 hands. He's only shown down 26% of the time. I haven't tangled with him much.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises and is all in</font> , MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

I try to win now vs weakman.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

ok card, bad action. That raise was unexpected, and I start to worry about a made flush here. My river plan is to check and call.

River: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB


typically the river is a clarkmeister type bluff, but given the turn action I felt like it would be spewing. Do I hate money?
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

Where'd UTG Go?
i Check/Call the flop, Turn is a tempting C/r but i bet the way you played it.

Whats this guys AF?
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

villian's ag is .073, though I didn't look when I played the hand. Edited op to account for UTG
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

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i Check/Call the flop,

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villain is weaktight postflop and I wanted him out.

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Turn is a tempting C/r but i bet the way you played it.

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I can't c/r because

A)he has no reason to bet at me with a hand I beat unless he specifically was holding a K. I have no reason to believe this to be the case.

and

B)If he was waiting around for a flush to come in, I'll get threebet and have to spend an extra bet to showdown.

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my real issue here is the river. Should I have boldly clarkmeistered here, or does turn action on a flush card sometimes dictate a different strategy?
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

Yeah its a "Combined package".

if you check/call the flop, Chances are he'll continue to bet.. hence the Check/raise.

As you played it(As i said in the 2nd quote, i bet the turn).

If you get 3bet on the king[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you can ditch it there and then IMO.

The 4th heart dropping isn't a bet vs this guy for me, i think he'll call to often with weak hearts or have the nuts from the way he played it to often for it to be profitable.

Just my 2cents...
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Old 11-20-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

and interesting and relevant discussion
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Old 11-20-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

one more hand vs same villain.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, Button calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

(button) held [8c As]
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

Where did UTG go?
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

Fold preflop.

Re-raise the turn.

Bet the river.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: made my straight on the turn.

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Fold preflop.


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I agree if the raiser wasn't all in, but the chance he's stacking off/we're on BB i call.

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Re-raise the turn.


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Agreed as this guys a bit crazy and could easily be betting a king. Are you folding to a re-raise?


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Bet the river.

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I don't like it as i think we'll get called by this guy to often to make this profitable.


Please reply, Cheers.
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