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AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
This is against an 83/35 donk. To aggressive by me or just bad luck? Is my reraise preflop too small? Has anyone seen my game?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG ($146.35) MP ($99.30) Button ($341) SB ($117.55) Hero ($156.35) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, Button folds, SB calls $8. Flop: ($28) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $48</font>, Hero calls $24. Turn: ($124) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $57.55</font>, Hero calls $2.55. River: ($239.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $239.10 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> SB has 7h 4c (three of a kind, sevens). Hero has Ac Ks (two pair, aces and sevens). Outcome: SB wins $239.10. </font> |
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
The reraise pf is definitely too small. I was about to say you can't fold your hand, then I reread your post to check for reads on villain...yeah, you probably could have gotten away from it but you have to check the flop
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
Ok, trying to learn here because I'm lost with your advices Fallen.
PF reraise too small because of the SB calling? Heads-up raising 3 times would be enough but because of SB, raising 4 times would be better? Even if SB is a donk, I mean, that raise is most likely getting you headsup, probly 90% of the time and you hold AKo... Why checking the flop after he checks? As far as i'm concerned, thats a good flop... why giving him credit for 7? I'm confused! .fs. |
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
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Ok, trying to learn here because I'm lost with your advices Fallen. PF reraise too small because of the SB calling? Heads-up raising 3 times would be enough but because of SB, raising 4 times would be better? Even if SB is a donk, I mean, that raise is most likely getting you headsup, probly 90% of the time and you hold AKo... Why checking the flop after he checks? As far as i'm concerned, thats a good flop... why giving him credit for 7? I'm confused! .fs. [/ QUOTE ] about pf: don't look at X times the ammount someone raised, just use potsized raises and you should be fine (adjust if you think stacksizes demand another bet size). In this case I'd bet $16. About checking the flop: you give him space to bet inferior hands (pp's, inferior aces) while keeping the pot small and allowing yourself to get away from the hand when he makes a big 3bet (even so, it won't be easy and most times you'll end up getting stacked if he has trips) |
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
But if i'm sticking with my X time the amount someone raised, raising 16$ is 4 times. If the SB folds to the first raise, how much would you raise the stealer? $12 I guess, since there's only 4$ in the pot.
I do agree that i'm still very noob at NL and my guidelines so far were open raise to 3 times the BB or 3 + # of limpers the BB. That's straight from Lee Jones since I didn't buy a good NL book so far lol.. I'd like to understand my leak here... Thanks Fallen, i like reading you. .fs. |
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
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But if i'm sticking with my X time the amount someone raised, raising 16$ is 4 times. If the SB folds to the first raise, how much would you raise the stealer? $12 I guess, since there's only 4$ in the pot. I do agree that i'm still very noob at NL and my guidelines so far were open raise to 3 times the BB or 3 + # of limpers the BB. That's straight from Lee Jones since I didn't buy a good NL book so far lol.. I'd like to understand my leak here... Thanks Fallen, i like reading you. .fs. [/ QUOTE ] X times works well if there isn't anything unusual in the hand (like a short stack all-in that would mess things up a bit) but that's just me nitpicking, it virtually doesn't make a difference. The only reason I mentioned using pot sized raises instead of X times someone's raise is because on later streets there will be dead money in the pot, and if you want to raise (for the same reasons you do pre-flop, value, protection, etc) you'll have to do it pot sized and not X times what he bet, so...why get yourself into bad habits trying to get rules on how to do it pf? In conclusion: your X is pretty close to a potsized bet pf (excluding blinds and other minor stuff) so it should work fine, I'm just not a big fan of getting rules on how to do stuff that sonner or later will have to become second nature to you. PS: thanks, it's nice to know I'm being helpfull [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: AKos- Should I have gotten off of this?
I would have made it 16$ preflop as well. But when the flop comes 77A Im definetely not checking. Think you'll see AQ alot more than a lone 7. No way I would have gotten off this one.
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