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Old 03-28-2005, 10:05 AM
GauchoFish GauchoFish is offline
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Default I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

It seems that this forum is nothing more than a cyber country club for a tight-knit group of losing players with <10% of membership actually having anything worthwhile or substantial (read: correct) to say about how to actually beat SNG's.

I propose that that <10% group get their own forum where poker knowledge, skills and experience will override familiarity, seniority and likability.

I propose that the first and only requirement for membership be to run members party handle through Prophecy, other players PT statistics or another reliable source and comeup with a skill rating for this player that is based upon FACT and ACTUAL RESULTS other than this de-facto pecking order that has been established in this forum.

A serious amount of improvement and poker education could be going on, but it is being lost on all this emotional static.



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Old 03-28-2005, 10:13 AM
iMsoLucky0 iMsoLucky0 is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

Interesting.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

"It seems that this forum is nothing more than a cyber country club for a tight-knit group of losing players"

Weird since all the regulars I see posting here seem to be winning players.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:54 AM
GauchoFish GauchoFish is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

'seem to be'

indeed

i invite you to pick five regulars (i like to call them 'lifers') and run their PP handles through Prophecy. See what you get. I'm not going to name any specific players, I'll let you decide which ones to test.

They say Prophecy is inaccurate, but anybody who has taken even the most elimentary statistics class knows that, so long as the sample is a random one, it can be used to generalize to the greater whole with a large enough percentage being sampled.


Neilsen for example samples less than 1% of US households and is able to generalize to the whole US within a couple of % points.

As an added note, my Prophecy stats are right on the money, as are two close friends'. The only thing off by any significant amount is the total tourneys played. They seem to miss 10-20%.


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Old 03-28-2005, 12:41 PM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

"The only thing off by any significant amount is the total tourneys played"

They have 60% of mine. I ran gauchofish through (you?), nice record at the $33s. Blindthief (you right?) didn't do so well at higher levels [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
You're not gauchoholic are something are you? Seen that one at the $33s and $55s, ran out of trial searches though.

"i invite you to pick five regulars (i like to call them 'lifers') and run their PP handles through Prophecy."

I'm outa trials for the moment. I checked a few previously and only one had an unimpressive record. This poster is easily one of the most knowledgable guys here, and it only caught half of his games anyway (basically only caught a 'bad run').

Why don't you point out 5 regulars you think are losers?
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

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I'm outa trials for the moment. I checked a few previously and only one had an unimpressive record. This poster is easily one of the most knowledgable guys here, and it only caught half of his games anyway (basically only caught a 'bad run').

Why don't you point out 5 regulars you think are losers?

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Yeah, the damn thing really doesn't catch close to all of the games. Sucks (or does it?) for the poster who had a bad run.

I'd be intrigued by Gaucho's choices of 5 "regulars" who are very vocal advice givers that are losing players.

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:53 PM
GauchoFish GauchoFish is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

there could be a shared database of poster's PT logs then. Or some other way. surely there is a talented coder among us who could easily coordinate PT accounts.

the thing is, people who are losing players know they are such if they keep logs. just having that requirement, some form of verification, would keep the losers from even applying.


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Old 03-28-2005, 12:50 PM
GauchoFish GauchoFish is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

if i point them out...this will thread will get out of control. i'm not looking to make personal attacks, i'm making a critique of the culture.

no i'm not gauchoholic...though i'm sure we share the same university hehe

i don't use GauchoFish much anymore, but i had a nice run while i played on it.


I WOULD HIGHLY RECCOMEND FORKING OVER THE $30 FOR PROPHECY...if it grabs 60% thats a ton, so long as they are random...just seeing that a guy has 300 tourneys in that thing is enough to avoid crucial early tourney all-in calls.
it also has paid for itself, in my case, many times over for this very reason.



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Old 03-28-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

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i'm not looking to make personal attacks

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:57 PM
Mr_J Mr_J is offline
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Default Re: I PROPOSE A NEW FORUM: WINNING SNG PLAYERS

"just seeing that a guy has 300 tourneys in that thing is enough to avoid crucial early tourney all-in calls."

This is the only stat that I'd think is useful. #sngs played shows indicates their experience level. 5 sngs played??? Very inexperienced and probally a fish. A few hundred?? A serious player who is probally pretty decent.

I wouldn't trust the ITM stats though.
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