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2/4 live game
Hero has 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP. UTG drunk LAG limps, Hero limps, 2 LP weak-fish people limp, SB (2+2'er) completes, and BB checks. flop (6 players) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG drunk LAG bets, Hero ??? How bad is raising here? UTG has been known to lead with anything from a gutshot to a set, and the fish behind generally call with any piece of the board or draw. |
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2/4 live game Hero has 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP. UTG drunk LAG limps, Hero limps, 2 LP weak-fish people limp, SB (2+2'er) completes, and BB checks. flop (6 players) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG drunk LAG bets, Hero ??? How bad is raising here? UTG has been known to lead with anything from a gutshot to a set, and the fish behind generally call with any piece of the board or draw. [/ QUOTE ] well, if they're calling with any piece of the board, then they're probably crushing you. i prefer calling and turning an 8 |
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well, if they're calling with any piece of the board, then they're probably crushing you. [/ QUOTE ] This and the faqt that there are so many people in the pot makes raising here bad [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I fold this one. |
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[ QUOTE ] well, if they're calling with any piece of the board, then they're probably crushing you. [/ QUOTE ] This and the faqt that there are so many people in the pot makes raising here bad [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I fold this one. [/ QUOTE ] 5 outs to 2 pair or a set, 1.5 for the backdoor flush, 0.5 for our 2-gapper straight draw. That's 7 outs needing about 5.7SB to call and we're being offered 7. Even with some discount and not closing the action I think this is an easy peel. |
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Calling > Raising > Folding. Folding is particularly bad with all of your outs. I call.
Edit: Ignore the last sentence. |
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or let's be realistic and discount our very weak two pair draw and our practically nonexistant backdoor straight draw because it will put TJQK on the board.
fold it up. |
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or let's be realistic and discount our very weak two pair draw and our practically nonexistant backdoor straight draw because it will put TJQK on the board. fold it up. [/ QUOTE ] folding>>calling>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>raising |
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or let's be realistic and discount our very weak two pair draw and our practically nonexistant backdoor straight draw because it will put TJQK on the board. fold it up. [/ QUOTE ] I still think it's worth a call. I expect one or both fish to call and pad for us and the SB to fold. I'm done if SB checkraises and UTG makes it 3 though. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] well, if they're calling with any piece of the board, then they're probably crushing you. [/ QUOTE ] This and the faqt that there are so many people in the pot makes raising here bad [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I fold this one. [/ QUOTE ] 5 outs to 2 pair or a set, 1.5 for the backdoor flush, 0.5 for our 2-gapper straight draw. That's 7 outs needing about 5.7SB to call and we're being offered 7. Even with some discount and not closing the action I think this is an easy peel. [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget that this is a live game though. That's 7:1 prerake. Right now you're probably getting 5 or 6 to 1 realistically. The pot is small and you have bottom pair with 4 players to act behind you. I think it's an easy fold. |
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LOL. Raising is awful.
You live in Las Vegas and you know how to play, I assume. Even if you are playing against poor players, your bottom pair wont stand up against 5 other players. Particularly with 2 high cards on the board. You are behind in this hand. Fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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