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Old 09-27-2005, 11:22 AM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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Default 100/200 69s on the button

Pokerstars 5 handed 100/200 against some guys I don't know that much about. Game is typical overaggressive.
I raise 6h9h on the button- I'm not an aggressive button stealer so this is an abnormally weak hand for me. Small blind 3 bets, big blind caps. I call.
Flop Q86 rainbow with one heart. They both check. I bet, they both call.
Turn is an ace, I don't recall if it brings a flush draw. They both check. My action?
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 69s on the button

I check behind on the turn pretty sure I'm behind but likely drawing to 5 outs and I don't think I pay off unimproved. I also fold to the cap preflop.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:36 PM
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muck to the preflop cap.

seriously.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:25 AM
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Is a call when its capped back to you preflop really the way to go?

On the turn I'd go for the bet/fold.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:26 AM
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Check-o-slo-vakia.

Jeff
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:33 AM
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I heart rounders.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 69s on the button

I think you're going to get c/r on the turn almost every time.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 69s on the button

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I think you're going to get c/r on the turn almost every time.

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Sure is risky of AK, AJ to to give the free card here, no?
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 69s on the button

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I think you're going to get c/r on the turn almost every time.

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Sure is risky of AK, AJ to to give the free card here, no?

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This is the real heart of the matter. The ace is a big scare card. If either of my opponents had AK, they would be out the turn. Same might be true of AJ, although it is possible AJ would fold the Q high flop. If I'm getting checkraised, I think it is because someone has a monster and I don't mind folding to the checkraise. I think their checks are a definite sign that they have basically nothing or basically everything. I don't think I'll get called down by a pocket pair like TT. So I bet the turn.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 69s on the button

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I think you're going to get c/r on the turn almost every time.

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Sure is risky of AK, AJ to to give the free card here, no?

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This is the real heart of the matter. The ace is a big scare card. If either of my opponents had AK, they would be out the turn. Same might be true of AJ, although it is possible AJ would fold the Q high flop. If I'm getting checkraised, I think it is because someone has a monster and I don't mind folding to the checkraise. I think their checks are a definite sign that they have basically nothing or basically everything. I don't think I'll get called down by a pocket pair like TT. So I bet the turn.

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As I noted above, I believe this is the right play. But also as noted above, I call if checkraised. It sounds like you fold if checkraised and after thinking some more I'm not sure by 11 or 12:1 is good enough to call a checkraise. Whats your thoughts, Paluka, on this? Do I have 4 good outs here? Perhaps I do against 1 but not 2 opponents. I just don't know.
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