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I feel bad for Barry Bonds
Barry Bonds has said he won't be playing until midseason, and is possibly not playing at all this season. He is citing extreme emotional duress and media harassment of his family.
"I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore." And this is what happens when the media takes something like baseball just a little bit too seriously. Thank God I drafted Bobby Abreu instead of Bonds in my keeper league! -James |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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"I don't wan't my kids to cry anymore." And this is what happens when the media takes something like baseball just a little bit too seriously. [/ QUOTE ] Bonds is always trying to elicit sympathy by bringing his kids into it. This just pisses me off more than anything. He got to the be one of the greatest players ever by cheating, then whines about it when he gets caught. Give me a [censored]' break. He knew the possible consequences of his actions when he started taking steroids, now he's trying to make the rest of us feel bad about the decisions he conciously made. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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He got to the be one of the greatest players ever by cheating [/ QUOTE ] Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use. [/ QUOTE ] McGwire had 49 home runs his rookie season and has admitted to taking supplements that were legal when he was taking them. Bonds would have been a HOFer even if he didn't use steroids, but never would have gotten to the point he's at now. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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[ QUOTE ] Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use. [/ QUOTE ] McGwire had 49 home runs his rookie season and has admitted to taking supplements that were legal when he was taking them. Bonds would have been a HOFer even if he didn't use steroids, but never would have gotten to the point he's at now. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. His stature wouldn't have been close to what it is today, but he still had 3 MVPs prior to his post-2000 home-run spree and got gypped out of another, IMHO. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use. [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely untrue. Let's assume he started using steroids in the late 90's. Look at his numbers. He was a very good player. Maybe even a great player. But he was far from "greatest player ever". What he has done since he turned ~ 35 is what brings him into the stratosphere, and unfortunately it seems that it was all done while on the juice. PS, we don't know when he started taking them. They've been around for a while. Remember Lyle Alzado? Bonds could have been on them as early as 1990 or 1991, when his career started to take off. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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[ QUOTE ] Unlike McGwire, I think he was clearly on the greatest player track before *alleged* steroid use. [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely untrue. Let's assume he started using steroids in the late 90's. Look at his numbers. He was a very good player. Maybe even a great player. But he was far from "greatest player ever". What he has done since he turned ~ 35 is what brings him into the stratosphere, and unfortunately it seems that it was all done while on the juice. PS, we don't know when he started taking them. They've been around for a while. Remember Lyle Alzado? Bonds could have been on them as early as 1990 or 1991, when his career started to take off. [/ QUOTE ] You're right, I exaggerated a bit too much. My main point was that his career was obviously not completely created by steroids. He was clearly a great player when he was "thin." |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
The fact of the matter is that Bonds was one of the top ten position players of all time pre 1999, or, at least, on the track to becoming it.
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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The fact of the matter is that Bonds was one of the top ten position players of all time pre 1999 [/ QUOTE ] No, I don't agree. Not even close. [ QUOTE ] Or, at least, on the track to becoming it. [/ QUOTE ] Hindsight certainly is 20-20. But if you asked in 1999, I think most people would have disagreed with you. Nobody could have expected his performance not simply to sustain itself but to improve at his age. |
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Re: I feel bad for Barry Bonds
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This is absolutely untrue. [/ QUOTE ] no its not. 3 MVPs before his alleged steroid use(should have been 4). |
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