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ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
I'm honestly starting to think that the celebrity poker coverage on Bravo is better than ESPN's. I'm just talking about coverage now, not the PLAY of course. Phil Gordon is someone who knows what he's talking about and Dave Foley adds comedic touch. Plus I like Gordon's commentary on how to play against really bad players at NL if you ever get a chance to play any. He spots the tells and just basically berates the players so you know what NOT to do. Also, the "what would you do segment" is very interactive for the viewer and all poker shows should start doing this. It will allow the viewer to really get inside the player's heads.
On the other hand...ESPN is SPOILING a good thing with the WSOP. It's honestly bad on every front. How are you suppose to enjoy a game when you can't even get into it. If I want to watch KQ vs. 88, I can just take my deck of cards and fuucking put down the flop, turn, and river. AND WALLA. ARE YOU ENTERTAINED? ARE YOU ALL ENTERTAINED? You rarely get any chip counts, no hint of what the blinds are, you get confused who raised in what position, and you get NO postflop play. I love how the only interesting hands they show, for instance the magician's K2o hand, they show it in a commercial. And the only hands they show...the action starts with someoen raising with KK, QQ, JJ, AA, AK.... Please ESPN get a goddamn poker consultant in your goddamn booth and learn how to properly edit the goddamn show. Also get new commentators. You can keep CHAD..but put a real poker expert in there for god sakes. i don't know how long I can hear Lon ejaculate over.."OH it's a BLACK 5". Seriously, either he shoots up when the river comes...or CHAD is blowing him, I don't know. Also, CHAD...if you act like you know how to play cards...at least talk like one. "OH WHAT A GREAT READ BY JEFFREY LISANDRO?!!" This is while Lisandro has top pair of KINGS with a Queen kicker and Ivey's gone over the top of him with a flush draw. All right, just put jackpot jay in the booth. Get it over with. I'm done. |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
this post made me laugh many times.
bravo indeed. bravo. |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
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this post made me laugh many times. bravo indeed. bravo. [/ QUOTE ] So you prefer ESPN's coverage, where you only get ALL-ins, and rarely get to see somebody having to make a tough post-flop decision? Could you please explain to me why that is better poker television than what Bravo does? ESPN's final table: 9 players, 1 hour Bravo: 5 players, 2 hours. ESPN analyst: Norm Chad...who? Bravo analyst: Phil Gordon WPT Champ |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
the first curcuit event was actually decent. idk y they did it in 2 hrs and then the rest in 1. last nights episode wasn't even poker. it was AA vs KK, AK vs QQ, AA vs AK and that's all it was. we didn't even get to see 2 of the players push in. u come back from a break and someone is putting on their jacket, waiting until they can leave the room.
if i were to make the ultimate poker show, it would be: ESPN's production value WPT's stats (chip counts, pots size, folded cards) CP commentary, not even, just get some one that knows what they r talking about. i'm aware that the public is retarded, but if they can handle football or baseball stats, we can get commentators that can to more than talk while i'm trying to watch the hand. lon is the most results oriented person ever! "I like this play if he can get that guy to fold" (he said the guys name, but i don't remember who it was) |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
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u come back from a break and someone is putting on their jacket, waiting until they can leave the room. [/ QUOTE ] oh yeah i forgot about this part. this is great...you get back from a commercial break and there's the river to go. HM LET ME SEE I GUESS SOMEONE IS GONNA GO BUST HERE...LET'S SHOW THE VIEWER THIS AND THEN MAKE IT AS ANTICLIMATIC AS POSSIBLE BUT EXTREMELY CLIMATIC FOR LON. Good god Lon..go back to commentating on Scrabble. If NBC purchases the rights, I think they will definitely make it better. THe NBC heads-up championship was pretty solid and I didn't have too many qualms about that. WPT shows a lot of interestings hands and you can definitely something, besides what TO DO WITH KK PREFLOP. ESPN also has no Shana Hiatt. Seriously, I can't masturbate to Lon Mcheron masturbating to himself. |
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If NBC purchases the rights, I think they will definitely make it better. THe NBC heads-up championship was pretty solid and I didn't have too many qualms about that. [/ QUOTE ] NBC did a decent job, but as I was watching a rerun of it on CNBC on sunday I realized the one thing I didn't like about it, WAAAY too many commercials. I often times they would show only 1 or 2 hands between commercial breaks. HU is a different format, but still the amount of commercials was crazy. |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
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[ QUOTE ] this post made me laugh many times. bravo indeed. bravo. [/ QUOTE ] So you prefer ESPN's coverage, where you only get ALL-ins, and rarely get to see somebody having to make a tough post-flop decision? Could you please explain to me why that is better poker television than what Bravo does? ESPN's final table: 9 players, 1 hour Bravo: 5 players, 2 hours. ESPN analyst: Norm Chad...who? Bravo analyst: Phil Gordon WPT Champ [/ QUOTE ] I was talking to a poker playing friend about this, and we both agreed ESPN is taking a step backward in poker coverage this year. With all the footage they have in the can, they only provide one hour (30 minutes taking out commercials/interviews etc.), a week? Last night was three hours of repeats before the puny new episode. I don't understand their thinking. Poker has been a cable TV hit for a while now, which means many of the people watching are serious about the game. Instead of shortening the coverage, they should be lengthening it ala golf. Once viewers understand the nuances of the game, they want to see as many hands as possible, even the so called non-exciting ones. Instead both ESPN and the WPT have regressed. The former by limiting new programming to an hour, which means only showdowns get coverage (which are boring to knowledgeable players), the later by making the blind escalation ridiculously quick at the final table, hence again insuring skill-handicapped all-in fests. Its like if CBS covered the Masters golf tournament and showed only birdies and used an hour of TV time to cover an entire round [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Frank |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
I've been extremely unimpressed by espn's coverage so far this year. You'd think after this many years they would at least be showing the amount in the pot. How hard is that? The hosting, while mildly entertaining doesn't have any poker content. The hands generally haven't been interesting.
I'm not sure I agree with the assessment that celebrity poker is better. The best programs so far seem to have been on Fox sports net (save poker superstars II, but hopefully the later rounds won't be all in fests). The first superstars, the full tilt poker tournament? (during the wsop), and the Turning Stone tournament have been great coverage. |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
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AND WALLA. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: ESPN coverage = ASS, Celebrity Poker Bravo = BEST
CP stinks
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