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Pretty common turn spot that I hate
villian is unknown.
Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls. Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ??? Please give turn plan and river plan for diamond and non diamond rivers. |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
I really hate b/cing this turn but I do it sometimes.
I think I like c/cing this turn more, then betting a diamond river, c/cing a non diamond (if we get bet both times) If the turn is checked through I'm typically firing unless I have a read that I'm getting more value out of inducing a bluff (typically when the diamond hits). |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8.
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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[ QUOTE ] I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Im really surprised you guys are saying bet/fold a diamond. |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Im really surprised you guys are saying bet/fold a diamond. [/ QUOTE ] Your hand is pretty transparent if you check/call the turn and then bet a 4 flush river, I dont see getting bluff raised (or smaller diamond) really, but I dont play the 30/60, so I could be way off |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Im really surprised you guys are saying bet/fold a diamond. [/ QUOTE ] Your hand is pretty transparent if you check/call the turn and then bet a 4 flush river, I dont see getting bluff raised (or smaller diamond) really, but I dont play the 30/60, so I could be way off [/ QUOTE ] well if we check call the turn that implies that he bets the turn. there arent many hands that are gonna have a bigger diamond than us and bet the turn and raise the river. edit-alobar has informed me that all im really doing here is making a case for betting vs checking. clarkmeisters theorem says bet/call not bet fold dammit! |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Im really surprised you guys are saying bet/fold a diamond. [/ QUOTE ] I guess you could bet/call if you aren't comfortable with folding. I haven't played the 30 either so I'm not sure how the average unknown plays. I think he raises it is almost always KdQx or QxJd. A bluff or raise from a lower diamond don't really make sense though I suppose they could happen occasionally. I don't think it's common enough. But the difference isn't much. |
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
Def check-call turn- I don't see much value at all in a bet. Check-fold river unimproved.
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Re: Pretty common turn spot that I hate
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I'm thinking check/call, check/fold unimproved. Bet/fold a river diamond and checkraise a river 8. [/ QUOTE ] I'm never bet/folding a diamond river against an unknown, ever. Bet/call. |
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