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Old 11-02-2005, 10:34 AM
People_Mover People_Mover is offline
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Default Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

60.00 buy in live tourney from casino boat last night.

10000 starting chips, blind levels start at 100/200, pretty good structure. Villian #1(24K) is poker dealer, very knowledgable about the game and doubled early QQ vs. 99 on a rag flop.
Villian #2 (10K) hasn't showed anything or entered many pots. Seems pretty fishy.
Hero (14K) has only shown down AK and AQ to win small pots.

The Hand:
Blinds 300/500
Villian #1 (dealer) opens for 1500 from UTG, called by Villian #2, folds to HERO in the BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

What's your action and why? Is this auto-push? Is this a big raise? What's your plan on the flop?

Results to come....
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

Any raise here basically commits you to the pot so push as you are not folding this hand.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

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Any raise here basically commits you to the pot so push as you are not folding this hand.

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push 14K to pick up 3300? hrmmmmm.....
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

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Any raise here basically commits you to the pot so push as you are not folding this hand.

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push 14K to pick up 3300? hrmmmmm.....

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So basically what is your plan to flat call and see a flop with two other players in the hand?? You need to reraise to drive caller out. Utg is likely to call no matter what. So if you reraise and not all in you have bled off 1/3 of your stack just to hope that no disgusting flop like J10x. Axx. KJx. etc. comes. I don't like a call here at all but I might be wrong.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

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I don't like a call here at all but I might be wrong.

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I didn't like a call there either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default My Action + FLOP

Hero makes it 5000 straight. Girl goes into the tank and calls, Villian #2 folds.

Flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I have 9200 left.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

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Any raise here basically commits you to the pot so push as you are not folding this hand.

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push 14K to pick up 3300? hrmmmmm.....

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If AK or especially JJ calls, the push is fine. They do, so I do.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

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Any raise here basically commits you to the pot so push as you are not folding this hand.

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push 14K to pick up 3300? hrmmmmm.....

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If AK or especially JJ calls, the push is fine. They do, so I do.

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Yeah but they are saying their read is that they won't. So how does that change things? I definitely push if Ak and JJ call me but their read is different.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

I don't mind a push at all, but I would probably call because your read is that both are tight and it's live so you can sometimes know if the flop hit your opponents or not. If this were online I'd just push because you'd get called by a lot worse hands than JJ
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Ladies..... ladies in reeeeeedddd.....

Hate the push here. The pot is too small.
I'm not entirely opposed to calling and raising any c-bet on an undercard flop but I like a raise to 4K better.
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