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$3/$6 hand
No notes on these two unfortunately, but nothing out of the ordinary as far as I could tell.
Discuss. 7 Card Stud High ($3/$6), Ante $0.50 (converter) 3rd Street - (1.17 SB) Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets 4th Street - (4.17 SB) Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls 5th Street - (3.58 BB) Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls 6th Street - (6.58 BB) Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets River - (9.58 BB) Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___raises Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___folds Total pot: (14.58 BB) |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
by BETS on third, does that mean you came in for a completion? I would probably raise 4th and hope to get it heads up, especially if you already showed aggression by coming in for the full bet.
On 5th, I would be troubled that you have a dead A and 4 and are drawing very thin if he does have the flush. But then his check on 6th tells me that your hand is good and a bet is in order. I probably check the river but I think my river play is a bit weak after discussions on here the last couple weeks. I dont know if I could lay down the river. He may be a donk and just backed into kings up, thinking they are good over the Qs on board and guessing you didnt have trip 4s with the dead 4 out there and not seeing anything else too scary out there. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
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by BETS on third, does that mean you came in for a completion? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
4th:I like the call here.If you rase & seat 3 has a strong draw,it's likely that he won't leave,& then he'll be tied into the hand.
5th:I would rather raise now & try to lose #3.Seat 6's powerful board will help persuade him to leave. River:Getting 13 1/2 to 1,I would prefer to call. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
What makes it tough is that he might be willing to raise with K's up in this spot. I think check-calling the river is the better plan in this spot--you have to be worried that either one of them have a draw that got there, but you should be willing to pay off with aces up given the previous action and the fact that your hand is concealed.
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Re: $3/$6 hand
I kind of like the fold, one of these guys has to have you beat. When T86 wakes up on the river and raises you I think he has to have something here, better than kings up my guess is a flush but could be a straight. QQ calling 2 bets with the chance of a 3-bet/cap coming has to be pretty strong to, I think he just has Q's up but he could very well be stronger than that.
That said, i usually call because I'm getting a great price but you are almost definately beat so folding is probably right. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
3rd: I personally never bet from the BI (leak in my game?, it comes off as confusing but most people aren't smart enough to realize you're actually trying to show strength
4th: Good 5th: I agree, c/r ing here is a good idea to try to get seat 3 out, and if you can't then you're probably going to be outdrawn here 6th: Really confusing looking to me when you check 5th, then bet sixth when you're opponent with the scary board improves 7th: Good fold, seat 3 probably just hit his club draw, you almost never have the best hand here, kings up doesn't make much sense given the action. I agree with Trish, check/call here is probably the best/cheapest line. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
I think against the average player you should fold the river here. Keep in mind though i have seen people raise with stuff like kings up in a spot like that. I'd be more willing to call in this spot with pocket aces rather than split aces because your strength is more hidden.
Having said that I would still fold here. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
Anyone fold 4th.
I probably wouldn't do so at the time. But you are probably up against at least 1 4 flush. And you have a dead 4 and a dead A. It seems you best case scenario is that you are against a pair in 2 spots. But if this is the case you don't have a monstrous edge. Yes, you have an edge. But if you are against 1 4-flush you aren't quite sunk. But if you are against 2 you are messed up bad. |
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Re: $3/$6 hand
Hi Roland,
First, a comment on players for which you do not have a read. I used to be very careful with these. I have changed this approach. When I see a player for whom I have no info, I assume generally weak till I see any other indication. It seems to me this approach works. I'd like to see others' comments on this. 3rd: It seems to me the tables I play (2/4, 3/6, 5/10) are so live/aggressive that I expect to be able to Bring-In and re-raise on 3rd. If the other A was not out, would you still bring in for the full bet? I don't remember the last time I brought in for a full bet. 4th: The boards sure are not what you want to see. However, I would probably raise: 1- I think you are probably ahead. 2- suspected weakness of players. 5th: Spades look scary. I agree with the call. 6th: I agree with the bet. I would also dismiss Seat 6 on a draw. Indeed, it looks to me like Seat 6 has confirmed the suspicion of weakness with his check/call. 7th: I agree with the bet. I think the fold is a mistake. I would guess your read is correct most of the time but not often enough to justify a fold. Cheers, |
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