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I am horrible with 99
I don't have PokerTracker in front of me right now but I think I am losing with 99 and 88 through 35k hands. I think that too often I am in the mindset of playing them solely for set value. For instance I almost always limp with them in early position. I very rarely attempt to isolate with them. I just play scared with these hands. On to a hand that just occured.
I've been at the table for about three orbits now and nobody has stood out. There has been a lot of limping preflop and so far there has been just one preflop raise that didn't come from me. I don't remember anything interesting concerning postflop play from villains so lets just assume they are loose-passive fish. Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls. <font color="blue">In the past I would have probably just limped in here because I suck, but when I saw the hand I made a concerted effort to be more aggressive. </font> Flop: (6.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls. <font color="blue"> Getting two callers is not what I wanted to see here. Certainly a chance that I am behind but is the chance great enough to shutdown?</font> Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, Hero ?? |
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Re: I am horrible with 99
Bet, it is really doubtful that they were staying in here with Queen High.
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Re: I am horrible with 99
I think one of them holding a Jack is a bigger concern. I make this bet, but I suspect it's -EV; I should look at my hand histories sometime to see how this usually fares for me.
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Re: I am horrible with 99
bet
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Re: I am horrible with 99
35k hands for just two groups don't mean nothin yo.
Edit: esp. with pairs, yo |
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Re: I am horrible with 99
With no read, I think I would continue to fire at the pot (bet-fold). There are some amazingly loose flop peels that are taken on innocuous boards. If both players call your turn bet, check-fold the river.
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Re: I am horrible with 99
I'm betting the turn, and folding to a raise. Prototypical semi-scary turn bet/fold scenario to me
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Re: I am horrible with 99
Ok, consensus is to bet the turn. That is what I did, intending to fold to a raise..
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds. River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ?? Fire at it one more time with just one caller? Fold to a raise? What do we think villains range is at this point? |
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Re: I am horrible with 99
I check-call that river and see what the hell he called me twice with.
What's the old line, hands you beat fold, and hands you don't will call or raise. I think I pay 1 to have him hopefully show me ATs. Had to peel on the flop. Had to peel on the turn with a gutshot and a flush draw. |
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Re: I am horrible with 99
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Fire at it one more time with just one caller? Fold to a raise? What do we think villains range is at this point? [/ QUOTE ] I'm content to check-fold. If you bet, you definitely fold to a raise with no read (if you want to see a showdown, check-call and hope to induce a bluff from a smaller pocket pair - but I think it's a -EV move). Villain's hand range probably looks like broadway one pair combos (KJ, JT, QT, KQ), weak aces (A2, A3), and a range of pocket pairs (44-TT). You may run into junk sometimes, but not often enough to warrant seeing a showdown. |
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