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PokerStars Game #xxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxx, Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2005/11/10 - xx:xx:xx (ET)
Table '14705318 2' Seat #2 is the button Seat 2 ![]() Hero [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]28162 in chips) Seat 8 ![]() Hero : posts small blind 600 Seat 8: posts big blind 1200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Hero [9d Ac] Seat 2: raises 3000 to 4200 Hero : raises 7800 to 12000 Seat 8: raises 16844 to 28844 and is all-in Seat 2: folds Hero : ????? there's no need to ask, it's not Ace high and chances are it's not Aces. i have to call right? blinds are too big to seat around w/ 15k right? |
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PokerStars Game #xxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxx, Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2005/11/10 - xx:xx:xx (ET) Table '14705318 2' Seat #2 is the button Seat 2 ![]() Hero [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]28162 in chips) Seat 8 ![]() Hero : posts small blind 600 Seat 8: posts big blind 1200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Hero [9d Ac] Seat 2: raises 3000 to 4200 Hero : raises 7800 to 12000 Seat 8: raises 16844 to 28844 and is all-in Seat 2: folds Hero : ????? there's no need to ask, it's not Ace high and chances are it's not Aces. i have to call right? blinds are too big to seat around w/ 15k right? [/ QUOTE ] If there is no need to ask, why ask? You have to call. Not because you don't want to be a short stack, but because you are pot committed. Why did you make the small reraise rather than calling or pushing? Was the purpose to represent a big pair? Once you reraise, either your opponent folds or all the money is going in, either when he pushes or on the flop. |
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If there is no need to ask, why ask? [/ QUOTE ] i was referring to the strenght of my opponent's hand. [ QUOTE ] Why did you make the small reraise rather than calling or pushing? Was the purpose to represent a big pair? [/ QUOTE ] pushing seems a little ace highish or small pp. i wanted him to feel like he was dominated or pop him on the flop. maybe he'll fold a bigger ace than mine. |
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you have to call 16k to win a total of ~65k. calling against AT-AK is almost exactly neutral chipEV. against 99-KK is slightly positive. against AA is obviously a disaster. against anything else it's hugely positive to call.
is there any chance that villain has 88 / A8 / KQ / air? i don't think so. i fold. |
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you have to call 16k to win a total of ~65k. calling against AT-AK is almost exactly neutral chipEV. against 99-KK is slightly positive. against AA is obviously a disaster. against anything else it's hugely positive to call. is there any chance that villain has 88 / A8 / KQ / air? i don't think so. i fold. [/ QUOTE ] 3-handed, there is plenty of chance of 88/A8/KQ or lower. Plus it is only slightly EV- if you are always dominated. Easy call. Maybe it is not a good idea to reraise an amount hwere you have a fairly close decision as to whether to call a push. |
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3-handed, there is plenty of chance of 88/A8/KQ or lower [/ QUOTE ] 88 might be possible, but if BB is horrible enough to push A8/KQ, i would hope that OP has noted his fishiness and would have mentioned it. also, i think 88 gets folded most of the time. [ QUOTE ] Plus it is only slightly EV- if you are always dominated. [/ QUOTE ] i'm at work, but i'd be curious a poker stove calc against the range A9 vs 99+/AT+. i'm also pretty unexcited about taking a neutral chipEV gamble. [ QUOTE ] Maybe it is not a good idea to reraise an amount hwere you have a fairly close decision as to whether to call a push. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. i would just push. |
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[ QUOTE ] 3-handed, there is plenty of chance of 88/A8/KQ or lower [/ QUOTE ] 88 might be possible, but if BB is horrible enough to push A8/KQ, i would hope that OP has noted his fishiness and would have mentioned it. also, i think 88 gets folded most of the time. [ QUOTE ] Plus it is only slightly EV- if you are always dominated. [/ QUOTE ] i'm at work, but i'd be curious a poker stove calc against the range A9 vs 99+/AT+. i'm also pretty unexcited about taking a neutral chipEV gamble. [ QUOTE ] Maybe it is not a good idea to reraise an amount hwere you have a fairly close decision as to whether to call a push. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. i would just push. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know about you, but I am not folding 88 or KQ to a reraise 3-handed. I gather you are assuming villain is very weak./tight. |
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ok, i looked back at the situation, and i think that i would fold 88/KQ, but i don't think it's nearly as sure that an unknown villain would.
so i agree, call the push. |
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I don't think you can raise half your stack and fold to a push. If so, you don't need A9o to do that, since it's no better than a pure bluff. I mean if he does anything but fold youre in a [censored] of a spot.
Had this guy been overly active? There's no shame in looking at a flop here. Stacks are really bad for this resteal (as you can see), and folding is not a good idea 3way with A9o, so.... I call. Everett |
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I don't think you can raise half your stack and fold to a push. If so, you don't need A9o to do that, since it's no better than a pure bluff. I mean if he does anything but fold youre in a [censored] of a spot. Had this guy been overly active? There's no shame in looking at a flop here. Stacks are really bad for this resteal (as you can see), and folding is not a good idea 3way with A9o, so.... I call. Everett [/ QUOTE ] I push. Stacks are right for a resteal. You have some FE. |
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