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\"Do you want me to call?\"
Last night in our tournament, 4 players left out of 20, pays 3, here's what happened:
<ul type="square"> UTG calls button folds small blind (me) goes all in (pocket 7s) big blind (who has everyone covered) shows me his cards and asks me if I want him to call[/list] He's a funny guy and I took this as just one of his antics, but how should I respond to that? (BTW, he had AJo). Is this considered not cool, fair game, or what? I didn't mind because it's just a home game, but I was at a loss for how to respond. |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
Hard to know what to do without payout schedule and chip counts, but off the top of my head just say "well you're behind but you have one over (mess with him just a little), but I don't want you sucking out on me" or something akin to that.
That said, call and play post flop, don't get crazy on the bubble. Cody |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
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That said, call and play post flop, don't get crazy on the bubble. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty difficult to give advice like this without any information (i.e. chip counts, payout schedule, blinds, etc.) |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
So according to Roberts Rules of poker and TDA rules, even the hand is heads up and one player is all in, is it legal for the other player to show his and and ask this question?
Player A is all in, everyone folds to player B who is the only other player in the pot. Can he flip his cards and ask this question? I know it's a different story in some other cards games, like Five draw but what about in HE? JMB |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
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So according to Roberts Rules of poker and TDA rules, even the hand is heads up and one player is all in, is it legal for the other player to show his and and ask this question? Player A is all in, everyone folds to player B who is the only other player in the pot. Can he flip his cards and ask this question? I know it's a different story in some other cards games, like Five draw but what about in HE? JMB [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it is illegal. According to the TDA you can't show your cards with action pending. However, I would interpret that to mean other player's action. Since the only remaining player is all-in and has no further action to take I would say that player B can make this move. However, I would be really careful about angle shooting in this situation. Typically, unless he's said call to an all-in, flipping your cards face up on the table is a fold. So, if he's not hanging on to his cards when he shows them, this could be an angle shot, player A starts to celebrate thinking he's folded and then player B says call. Or perhaps player A interprets it as a call of his all-in and reacts in an obvious way. It's not as likely if Player B merely shows as opposed to flipping them up, that player A will think he's made a binding decision. --Zetack |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
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Last night in our tournament, 4 players left out of 20, pays 3, here's what happened: <ul type="square"> UTG calls button folds small blind (me) goes all in (pocket 7s) big blind (who has everyone covered) shows me his cards and asks me if I want him to call[/list] He's a funny guy and I took this as just one of his antics, but how should I respond to that? (BTW, he had AJo). Is this considered not cool, fair game, or what? I didn't mind because it's just a home game, but I was at a loss for how to respond. [/ QUOTE ] Just tell him to show the other one and you'll let him know. |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
It's not cool because UTG is still in the hand (unless I'm misunderstanding) - BB's hand should be declared dead.
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
Hand is dead because UTG is still to act. Assuming this was not the case, don't say anything. If he does this a lot, always answer yes or no, it doesn't matter --- if you're consistent he'll gain nothing. Best practice is to not say a word.
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
"Heads I want you to call, tails I don't"
then flip the quarter. |
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Re: \"Do you want me to call?\"
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Hand is dead because UTG is still to act. Assuming this was not the case, don't say anything. If he does this a lot, always answer yes or no, it doesn't matter --- if you're consistent he'll gain nothing. Best practice is to not say a word. [/ QUOTE ] His hand is not dead. According to Robert's rules of Poker, he must now show his cards to the UTG player. According to the TDA rules for tourney play, a penalty may be imposed for exposing his cards with action pending. Killing his hand is not one of the penalties that may be imposed edit: I actually got that killing his hand is not one of the penalties by looking at the penalties section. But the matter is more specifically addresed in the TDA rules: "A player who exposes his cards during the play may incur a penalty, but will not have his hand killed." end edit. Zetack |
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