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PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
villain is a fish.
good read or donkey spew play? Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. River: (5.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font> |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
Looks like a spew to me. I don't expect a fish to fold here.
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
Imo this is a complete spew unless you had a way better read than just "fish". Itīs very unlikely he is raising the river without a full house and as he is a fish he will never fold a 7.
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
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Imo this is a complete spew unless you had a way better read than just "fish". Itīs very unlikely he is raising the river without a full house and as he is a fish he will never fold a 7. [/ QUOTE ] why would he have a 7? |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
I disagree with the turn check. The read given was somewhat lacking, but against a vanilla fish:
1) He showed no aggression on the flop. The turn changes nothing -- it is unlikely he is paired. 2) He's a fish. There's a good chance he is just peeling. Our fold equity rockets on the turn. 3) We have no showdown equity and can't call a river bluff, getting a fold from him would be much better now. A turn check with a gutshot + high card would be much nicer. 4) We have a gutshot and it's an easy fold against most players. Against 95% of players our fold equity >>> equity of our draw. Unless you missed out some vital information in your read. |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
What does fish mean ?
Does it just mean loose ? |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
If he's the type to take a lot of hands to the river, I wouldn't try the steal with 64s here to start with. Most fish are likely to call when they should fold, not fold when they should call.
You're going to make oodles off this guy when he calls you down with the worst hand, not when you put a play on him and make him fold a winner. |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
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good read or donkey spew play? [/ QUOTE ] the latter. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
the whole hand is one extended spew IMO.
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Re: PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF
The conditions for this would have to be so specific that there's no way anyone could simply read "spew or no?", browse the HH, and then tell you whether it was correct or not.
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