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2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
UTG+1 is LAG (50vpip, 15pfr through 60 hands), MP1 is just horrible (80vpip, 5pfr through 200 hands).
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. River: (14 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 17 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Jd Ad (two pair, aces and jacks). UTG+1 has 9s 7s (one pair, nines). MP1 has Ah Kc (one pair, aces). Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB. </font> This has become my most used play when I flop a big hand. Bet into field, call and C/R turn if raised, keep hammering if not. Is this a solid line, or am I missing bets by not 3-betting flops and hoping for extra raises later on? Also, is the pre-flop raise standard? Anyone cap after getting 3-bet by a LAG with someone that will call with literally any two along for the ride? |
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Re: 2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
3 bet the flop, lead the turn and call a raise. I guess.
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Re: 2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
You deftly wanna 3 bet that flop espescially since hes LAG and you have top 2 pair he could be having alot of hands
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Re: 2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
3-bet the flop with the 2 spades, If the flush draw wasn't there, then I could see the calling the raise and c/r ing the turn.
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Re: 2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
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3-bet the flop with the 2 spades, If the flush draw wasn't there, then I could see the calling the raise and c/r ing the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I dont like this play against more reasonable opposition at all. This is one of those times where you can pass on a small edge to exploit a larger edge later. If someone does have the flush draw they are getting 2 to one on their bets anyway. Thier hand is only a 2.18 to 1 shot(and they lose very little on the bets that go in on the flop) if you dont count the Ac. If the ace is in their hand its a 1.85 to 1 shot(and they are making money on that bet). If you wait until the turn you not only keep the pot reasonable size, you also have cut their odds from about 2 to 1 on the flop to worse than 4 to 1. If a spade falls you saved a bet on the flop. If not you have a much larger edge on any money that may go in now.. However, VPIP80 is not reasonable and seems to call with any 2 cards. A reraise is probably in order as well as a bet on the turn. |
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Re: 2/4 AJs hand.. good line?
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UTG+1 is LAG (50vpip, 15pfr through 60 hands), MP1 is just horrible (80vpip, 5pfr through 200 hands). Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, SB folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. River: (14 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 17 BB Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Jd Ad (two pair, aces and jacks). UTG+1 has 9s 7s (one pair, nines). MP1 has Ah Kc (one pair, aces). Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB. </font> This has become my most used play when I flop a big hand. Bet into field, call and C/R turn if raised, keep hammering if not. Is this a solid line, or am I missing bets by not 3-betting flops and hoping for extra raises later on? Also, is the pre-flop raise standard? Anyone cap after getting 3-bet by a LAG with someone that will call with literally any two along for the ride? [/ QUOTE ] DCIAce, here's how I see it: The preflop raise is standard. It's a value bet. I'd 3bet on the flop with the two spades out there. You undoubtedly have the best hand at this point, and want to get more $$ in there while you have the best of it. Plus you want to make draws expensive. I like and understand your approach on the turn, and use it often myself, but here, youi absolutely don't want to risk the hand being checked through giving a free card, so I'd look at it as a bet/3bet. Your river bet is again a value bet. Nice hand! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] bill c |
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