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Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
I've been looking through my PT data and have realised that I'm losing money with 66, 55, 44, 33, 22.
I've been trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong & I have a suspect. I think I play small PP correctly in position but I think I'm messing up OOP... The question is what do you do with a small pocket pair in the blinds when facing a pre-flop raise (no limpers. no cold callers). I know there are many factors to consider here but it's those factors that I'd like to discuss... |
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
against someone that raises far too much and a PFR>5 BB I fold it. If a player is overly weaktight but has a wide range preflop I also fold it. My theory being that he's often not raising solid hands he wants to showdown and I can't stack him nearly enough to make this preflop call profitable.
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
I have found that PP's under 6 are usually losers in EP when you are facing a PFR. You don't hit the set that often (1 to 7) and when you don't it is usually a check fold. I don't think the implied odds are that great either for your hand unless you hit a nice flop that hits his hand as well.
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
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I have found that PP's under 6 are usually losers in EP when you are facing a PFR. You don't hit the set that often (1 to 7) and when you don't it is usually a check fold. I don't think the implied odds are that great either for your hand unless you hit a nice flop that hits his hand as well. [/ QUOTE ] with <50BB stacks that's my thoughts as well... Is this the general consensus? Any reference from trusted 2+2 authors / high-limit players? |
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
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[ QUOTE ] I have found that PP's under 6 are usually losers in EP when you are facing a PFR. You don't hit the set that often (1 to 7) and when you don't it is usually a check fold. I don't think the implied odds are that great either for your hand unless you hit a nice flop that hits his hand as well. [/ QUOTE ] with <50BB stacks that's my thoughts as well... Is this the general consensus? Any reference from trusted 2+2 authors / high-limit players? [/ QUOTE ] 6max or full? |
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
6-max
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
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with <50BB stacks that's my thoughts as well... Is this the general consensus? Any reference from trusted 2+2 authors / high-limit players? [/ QUOTE ] yawwwn...this has been discussed ad naseum. the ciaffone 5/10 rule for drawing hands is the accepted standard. if you are facing a raise less than 5% of your stack its an easy call, more than 10% it's an easy fold. between that use your judgement. you hit a set 12% of the time, this is why the rule works, you are putting a rule of thumb judgement of the implied odds for the hand. If you call for 10% of your stack you must stack the opponent every time you hit for it to be a profitable preflop call. |
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
Mercman,
I know the 5-10 rule... I have been using it until now - I just wonder whether it works out of position as well... It just seems to me that it's real hard to stack someone with a set when OOP... so what percentage of the stack would you call? 5%? or less? |
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
i normally fold with anything less then 66 vs a raise, unless SB or Button raises me, i go with my reads. If no one raises i limp in and take it from there.
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Re: Small Pocket Pairs in the blinds (theory discussion)
Sets are pretty much the easiest hands to play out of position, if you're losing with them you probably don't have a big enough sample size.
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