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Thomastem |
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118 | 63.44% |
LALDAAS |
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68 | 36.56% |
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To make a short story long, I was playing a multi when my friend called and invited me over for a little tourney. I explained my situation and decided to unplug at my house during the break and zip over and plug in at his house to finish my online tourney while we were playing live. (Hey, I usually multi-table SnG's so I should be able to handle this, right?)
So my friend was watching me play the online tourney and... Started with 890, down to 62 and 60 get paid. I think the average stack was about 12,000. Here are the relevant stacks from the hand: AliasMrJones (button) 9,484 SB 25,122 BB 33,423 Folded to me in the button with AJo. I thought about it for a while and my friend and I had a discussion about whether to push or not. On the plus side, AJo is a good hand, and there are only the blinds to worry about. On the minus side, both blinds have huge stacks and it would suck to play for 3 hours and go out 2 out of the money when I could easily fold at least into the money in a hand or two and then play to win. Oh, and I should mention the distribution since the payout for 60 was higher than normal. 33 buy-in, 60th paid 120, 10th was about 400 and 1st was about 8,000. |
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How big were the blinds?
Depending on the blinds, it's either a push, or a normal steal-sized raise. |
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why even risk it? dont you want to at least finish in the money? AJ is the devil.
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blinds? I'm raising to steal and pushing almost any flop.
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why even risk it? dont you want to at least finish in the money? AJ is the devil. [/ QUOTE ] still a favorite against two random hands and i hope he's in this to win it, not just to make money. gotta steal the blinds here and a push seems right |
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Blind size is very important here. If I have 15xBB+, I fold. If I have less, I push.
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Blind size is very important here. If I have 15xBB+, I fold. If I have less, I push. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this, generally. But, given the *relatively* deep payout for ITM, I probably lower the push/fold point down to about 8-10xBB. I want a shot at a better hand to double up on in the next couple of orbits if I am guaranteed to make the money in the next couple of hands. The whole "I am in it to win it" concept is taken too far sometimes and results in people advocating a push with hands that do not justify it. |
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The whole "I am in it to win it" concept is taken too far sometimes and results in people advocating a push with hands that do not justify it. [/ QUOTE ] The reason I don't raise with 15xBB or more is not because "I want to eek into the money", it's that I'm too afraid of a resteal right now. I'm certainly not pushing a 20xBB stack here! This is a really tough spot for a 10-15xBB stack. I probably raise to 3xBB actually and call a push. |
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broken hand. hurts to type. i think standard raise calling a push is best line here. you arent deep enough to get away from this hand, and i think aggressive big stacks will push quite a few hands you dominate
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broken hand. hurts to type. i think standard raise calling a push is best line here. you arent deep enough to get away from this hand, and i think aggressive big stacks will push quite a few hands you dominate [/ QUOTE ] Standard raise is not a good move unless you want an increased possibility of the blinds re-raising. A standard raise is about 1/2 the stack. We would certainly have to call if one of the blinds pushed. They are going to call our push regardless if they have a big hand. Might as well push ourselves and try and pick up the blinds. |
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