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11-28-2004, 07:29 AM
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i do some cheating
playing a NL SNG on empire (just 1 as i tackle a 2/4 draw game on paradise) - i get QQ with a small stack and the blinds at 25/50 - i raise to T175 and known chook raises to T350 - 4 year old son disconnects power to my wireless internet connection thingee
i'm not happy when some bloke cheats by deliberatly timing out - its plainly a dishonest thing to do - but - i think having a rule that assumes you are that bloke when your connection dissappears is stupid stripsqueez - chickenhawk 
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#2
11-28-2004, 08:34 AM
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Re: i do some cheating
You are responsible for controlling your 4 year-old and keeping him away from the electrical wires.
Violations of empire disconnect-protect is now a strict liability offence, i.e. no excuses allowed.
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#3
11-28-2004, 05:53 PM
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Re: i do some cheating
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You are responsible for controlling your 4 year-old and keeping him away from the electrical wires [/ QUOTE ] plainly you dont have children [ QUOTE ] Violations of empire disconnect-protect is now a strict liability offence, i.e. no excuses allowed [/ QUOTE ] thats an excellent analogy - a strict liability offence isnt an offence for which there is no excuse - the law where i come from has several strict liability offences - those offences have several features in common - they are always "regulatory" type offences - ie minor offences the nature of a strict liability offence is to remove the neccesity to prove intent - the policy position re creation of a strict liability offence is that they should only be created for minor offences where commision of the offence is of itself compelling evidence of the neccesary intent - the primary benefit of strict liability offences is efficency of the justice system in net effect a strict liability offence is a compromise on recognised legal norms of fairness - we cant be arsed with your dodgy excuse for speeding - we know thats not fair but there are so many of you guys that its inpractical for us to consider any one offence individually - and no-one really cares that your speeding - its not as if you committed murder or that any reasonably thinking person is going to think less of you for committing the offence there is nothing inherent in disconnecting from the internet that spells cheating - its an everyday occurence - its seriously dumb in my view to create strict liability for an offence where all that is really at issue when considering whether wrong doing has occured is the honesty or otherwise of the offender happy for the dodgy blokes to roam in exchange for the reputation of the innocent stripsqueez - chickenhawk
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#4
11-29-2004, 01:31 AM
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Re: i do some cheating
Strict liability also applies in civil litigation, and the consequences can be quite dire. In certain circumstances, without having to be proven negligent, you can be held responsible for some injury and be ordered to pay significant damages.
Also 'possession' laws often remove any requirement of intent. And the penalties under them can be harsh.
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#5
11-29-2004, 01:33 AM
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Re: i do some cheating
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there is nothing inherent in disconnecting from the internet that spells cheating - its an everyday occurence - its seriously dumb in my view to create strict liability for an offence where all that is really at issue when considering whether wrong doing has occured is the honesty or otherwise of the offender [/ QUOTE ] You say that as though determining the honesty or otherwise is an easy task. Perhaps the sites could hire Phil Helmuth to look into the suspected offender's soul.
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#6
11-29-2004, 03:01 AM
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Re: i do some cheating
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You say that as though determining the honesty or otherwise is an easy task. Perhaps the sites could hire Phil Helmuth to look into the suspected offender's soul. [/ QUOTE ] phil helmuth would not be required was i cheating when i disconnected with my QQ ? - any decent poker player could quickly identify a difference between a dodgy disconnect and an innocent disconnect forgive all the obvious innocent disconnects - if someone disconnects in a dodgy scenario then tell them so and give them an opportunity to explain there actions - if no or no sufficent explanation is given or the same player commits a second dodgy disconnect start imposing set penalties there will be some cases that are difficult and someone someday will innocently disconnect in a dodgy scenario for a second time - ultimately the sites can do what they like in such scenarios - but the point is that better systems than a zero tolerance policy are easy and much more effective stripsqueez - chickenhawk
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#10
11-28-2004, 03:41 PM
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Re: i do some cheating
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What the hell does "bloke" mean? From the context I assume it's an insult. Which countries use this word? The U.S. certianly isn't one of them. [/ QUOTE ] ‘Bloke’ is a term used to describe a person of the male persuasion, and has been in use for ages in the English speaking world. If you're going to use someone else’s language, you may want to keep up with new words and stuff. Otherwise, get your own.
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