Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Other Topics > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: 8-8 UTG+2. Folded to You
Raise 54 26.60%
Call 111 54.68%
Either Way 32 15.76%
Fold 6 2.96%
Voters: 203. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-02-2004, 07:59 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 548
Default Hypothetical voting question

I am 21 years old and do not vote, nor have I registered. Most of my friends are the same way. Now, lets say that I decide that I want to vote, and its too late to register. You and only you know some way that I can register late (I am unaware that you have this knowledge), but I have made it well known that I plan on voting for the guy opposite of who you want to win (assume just 2 parties).
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-02-2004, 08:30 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 548
Default My thoughts

If you are willing to show me how to register, then great. This shows that you care about getting youth to vote, which I guess is good for the nation. However, it also just goes to show that my vote does not mean a damn thing.

If you pretend you dont know how, then you probably care more about yourself and winning than the benefit of the nation as a whole.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-02-2004, 10:18 AM
IrishHand IrishHand is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 888
Default Re: My thoughts

[ QUOTE ]
This shows that you care about getting youth to vote, which I guess is good for the nation. However, it also just goes to show that my vote does not mean a damn thing.

[/ QUOTE ]
Actually, it means I believe in democracy and would prefer that every eligible voter did so. This nation would be a much different (and better) place if we had a turnout in the 90s.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-02-2004, 04:14 PM
knightunner knightunner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY
Posts: 81
Default Re: My thoughts

[ QUOTE ]

Actually, it means I believe in democracy and would prefer that every eligible voter did so. This nation would be a much different (and better) place if we had a turnout in the 90s.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree 100%

~knight
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-02-2004, 11:20 AM
MMMMMM MMMMMM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,103
Default Re: My thoughts

I think "getting youth to vote" is not necessarily a good thing at all (although some youths may be well-informed and logical enough to employ a rational decision-making process).

By and large youth is pretty ignorant, and more likely than older voters to analyze things emotionally rather than rationally. Youth also has a strong tendency towards strong idealism which is so impractical that it can never work. You may be an exception.

That said, I would not withhold voter registration information from anyone if they asked me and I knew the answer.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-02-2004, 11:35 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 548
Default Re: My thoughts

[ QUOTE ]
By and large youth is pretty ignorant, and more likely than older voters to analyze things emotionally rather than rationally.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is what I dont get. I have this ex-gf who is super gung-ho republican. i know for a fact that she never even considers voting anything but. The details of the situation do not matter. Democrats are evil in her eyes and she wouldnt be caught dead voting for one. This is something that is going to stick with her for the rest of her life. I can only assume this is how many people are. Its just plain stupid.


[ QUOTE ]
You may be an exception.

[/ QUOTE ]
Maybe, but I am SERIOUSLY more interested in what I am going to have for dinner tonight than who wins this election.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-02-2004, 11:37 PM
Abednego Abednego is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1
Default Re: My thoughts

Just so that I am clear on this. Is your straight-ticket correctly-voting republican GF the one who is wisely withholding this info from you? ..... Or is this some hypothethical childish arguement that you picked a fight with her on and she won't give the answer you want so your ego is bruised deal?

And since she is republican and supports Bush and you aren't going to be able to cancel out her vote in the important swing state of MI your doubly peaved? Well don't feel bad ..... she hasn't cut you off has she?

I remember my first wife cut me off once ...... I didn't find out about it for six months.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-03-2004, 12:28 AM
MarkL444 MarkL444 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 548
Default Re: My thoughts

I dont talk to her anymore
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-02-2004, 07:50 PM
Abednego Abednego is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1
Default Re: My thoughts

I care about the nation as a whole and that is why winning is important. Since you would vote in a manner that is contrary to what I think is best for the nation I would not inform you on how to register. I actually hope all the people who do not support my candidate have migraine headaches on election day and stay home. In my opinion this would be best for the nation. If you don't see it this way then I am afraid you don't understand the nature of the political struggle the nation is engaged in. It is serious business and the differences are differences in principle. If you are steadfast in your principles why would you want to compromise them. We are a divided nation to be sure and everybody should vote. Everybody should get registered to vote. But the hell with the opposition. I want my principles to prevail ..... that is what it best for the nation. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-02-2004, 10:10 PM
Rooster71 Rooster71 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 404
Default Re: My thoughts

[ QUOTE ]
If you are willing to show me how to register, then great. This shows that you care about getting youth to vote, which I guess is good for the nation. However, it also just goes to show that my vote does not mean a damn thing.

If you pretend you dont know how, then you probably care more about yourself and winning than the benefit of the nation as a whole.

[/ QUOTE ]
It is not my (or any other individual's) responsibility to show someone how to vote. If someone wants to cast a vote, it is their own responsibility to register and vote, not depend on someone to show them how. In your hypothetical situation, if you cared about voting then you would not have waited so long to register.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.