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Old 07-18-2004, 05:07 PM
jwvdcw jwvdcw is offline
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Default how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

For example, lets say you have 1000 chips and get AA in BB. Blinds are 10/20. MP raises to 60, you re raise to 200. He calls.

Flop comes A-9-2 rainbow.

You check, he bets 200.

Now what? If you raise, I think theres a good chance he folds(unless he has A-K, A-9, A-2, 9-9, or 2-2 and I think A-K is the only reasonable hand here unless its some idiot playing 9-9). You want to sandbad obviously, but you don't want to let him draw a straigtht or flush, especially in a tournament situation where you don't want a lot of chips. So do you merely call and then bet on the turn? Or do you call and then check raise again on turn? Or do you just raise?

What if I said there were two hearts out there instead of a rainbow? Does that change things? I don't think a good player would've bet that much if he was on a heart draw(I would've checked to get the free card), but who knows with these online players. Does the heart draw make you play it more aggressively.

Thoughts?
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Old 07-18-2004, 05:10 PM
boedeker boedeker is offline
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

ill tell you this. he isnt gonna bet out 200 with a flopped set of nines on a board like that. 9 to 1 he is trying to take down the pot there and a reraise isnt getting you anythign. let him bluff again on the turn.
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Old 07-18-2004, 05:10 PM
AtlBrvs4Life AtlBrvs4Life is offline
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

In this situation, I think I would call and then check raise the turn.
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Old 07-18-2004, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

I agree with the poster above. Call this bet (maybe even pause like you're considering folding). Then check raise the turn.
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Old 07-18-2004, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

I agree he has AK. If he has 99 you will win all his chips. I agree with the other posters to call and then check/raise.

If there are 2 suited cards I would raise the flop and try to take the pot right there. No sense losing all your chips with a good hand to a draw that you let in for cheap. You have put 40% of your stack in already. I probably reraise all in and don't mind a call.
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Old 07-19-2004, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

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I agree he has AK. If he has 99 you will win all his chips. I agree with the other posters to call and then check/raise.

If there are 2 suited cards I would raise the flop and try to take the pot right there. No sense losing all your chips with a good hand to a draw that you let in for cheap. You have put 40% of your stack in already. I probably reraise all in and don't mind a call.

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This post was pretty much how I thought on the hand that inspired this thread(although everyone else also posted good insight).

The exact hand in question:

I have AA in BB. He raises to 60, I re raise to 200. He calls.

Flop comes A-9-2 with two hearts. I check, he bets 300, I raise all in. He calls with J-J [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] and I have him practically drawing dead. I don't know how he made that call, but thats besides the point.
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Old 07-19-2004, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

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I don't know how he made that call

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Me neither but I see those calls and worse every single tourny I play in. It seems to be more and more ridiculous every day. This is why all in isn't so bad because he may see it as a move and call. Then again he was probably some clueless idiot that only saw JJ and felt he deserved to win. At least he didn't spike a Jack [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-20-2004, 11:12 AM
TeeVeeDude TeeVeeDude is offline
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

It's amazing how people with pairs are willing to go all-in after missing a flop.

The other day in a $3 Stars tourney, I was in middle position with Kd 4d. Blinds were at T50/T100, and I had the big stack at my table, over T4,000. One player limped in front of me, I limped in, one player after me raised to $300. The original limper called, I called.

Flop is 2d 3d 6h. First player bets the minimum, I call, player to my left goes all in. The other guy calls and is also all-in.

I think for a minute... I've got 8 outs to make a flush, three more that make a straight. I'm pretty sure that the raiser has a pair of aces, but if I call and lose I still have nearly T3,000 and it's early in the tournament, so I call.

Amazingly, the raiser had a pair of Queens... and the other caller had QJo.

I made my flush, busted both of them, and the raiser then berated me for being stupid enough to call an all-in with "King rags."

Heck, since even pairing my king would have beat him I had not just the 11 outs I though, but 14 outs! With 14 outs and two cards to come, I was better than even money and getting paid 2:1.
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Old 07-20-2004, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

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It's amazing how people with pairs are willing to go all-in after missing a flop.

The other day in a $3 Stars tourney, I was in middle position with Kd 4d. Blinds were at T50/T100, and I had the big stack at my table, over T4,000. One player limped in front of me, I limped in, one player after me raised to $300. The original limper called, I called

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Its amazing how many people thing Kx suited is a hand worth calling a raise with.

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Amazingly, the raiser had a pair of Queens...

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Why is this amazing?

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Heck, since even pairing my king would have beat him I had not just the 11 outs I though, but 14 outs! With 14 outs and two cards to come, I was better than even money and getting paid 2:1.

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Amazing how many people justify a call with hindsight.
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Old 07-19-2004, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: how to play a flopped set of aces with no danger on the board

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I have AA in BB. He raises to 60, I re raise to 200. He calls.

Flop comes A-9-2 with two hearts. I check, he bets 300, I raise all in. He calls with J-J and I have him practically drawing dead. I don't know how he made that call, but thats besides the point.

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Playing with the kids on the short bus again?
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