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$55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
MP3 (t990) CO (t915) HERO (t975) SB (t985) BB (t985) UTG (t1170) UTG+1 (t1000) UTG+2 (t1000) MP1 (t980) MP2 (t1000) Preflop: HERO is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 calls t15, CO raises to t45</font>, HERO calls t45, BB calls t30, MP3 calls t30. Flop: (t187.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)</font> BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, HERO checks. Turn: (t187.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font> BB checks, MP3 checks, CO bets t150</font>, HERO ??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] No reads. what's the standard line in this situation, and why? |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
Insta-push.
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
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Insta-push. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Cause you have the best hand but draws are out there but one or more of the donks might come along. |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
Letting a free card get off on that board with a set is dumb. Folding a set on the turn is "Tommy-Reed" like, and you don't want to go there.
Considering pot size, yeah, I shove this. |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
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Folding a set on the turn is "Tommy-Reed" like [/ QUOTE ] WooT? |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
Yeah, you gotta push this. You probably get everyone to fold, because CO can be betting any two to steal there after all the weakness. Though I don't think that's particularly likely with the draws.
Anyway yeah, when you're called it's usually by an 8 or just a flush draw. You're like never ever behind. |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
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Anyway yeah, when you're called it's usually by an 8 or just a flush draw. You're like never ever behind. [/ QUOTE ] I'll elaborate a bit on that I guess..nobody with a bigger set is checking it twice, that'd be retarded. They need to protect their hand as well as try to get some value from draws. Same goes for a flopped straight...though a bit less so since it's only afraid of one draw. Thus the only player who could conceivably have a better hand than you is CO...but you can't be scared of oversets or straights, you'll end up laying down the best hand way more often than not. |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
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[ QUOTE ] Anyway yeah, when you're called it's usually by an 8 or just a flush draw. You're like never ever behind. [/ QUOTE ] I'll elaborate a bit on that I guess..nobody with a bigger set is checking it twice, that'd be retarded. They need to protect their hand as well as try to get some value from draws. Same goes for a flopped straight...though a bit less so since it's only afraid of one draw. Thus the only player who could conceivably have a better hand than you is CO...but you can't be scared of oversets or straights, you'll end up laying down the best hand way more often than not. [/ QUOTE ] WooT? I guess I'm retarted tonight... |
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
I would probably make it 450, then push the river. If a scare card falls and he pushes the river I'm calling. I know 450 makes it obvious we have a hand, but they call anyway.
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Re: $55: Turned a set but facing a 3/4pot bet and 3 opponents
i min raised to 300. i wanted to string the co along for some more chips. but now that i think of it, if he was on a draw (straight/flush), i'm not pricing him out. (Mental note: always protect my hand.)
mp3 calls it, and co calls. ok, mp3 worries me. river = red 8, so if someone had the 6 or J, they just made their gut shot. mp3 bets out 100chips. co folds. oh boy... i'm thinking flopped straight and he's value betting since i'll be too scared to bet with 4 cards to a straight on the table. but for 100 chips into this huge pot i call, and he turns over 7J clubs. ARRGGG... this idiot check/cold called a raise to a 3/4pot bet with bottom pair and a gut shot?! sigh.. made a note on him, and moved on... |
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