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I really don't have a feel yet for the 55s. Given the calling standards I've seen in the 33s, I would often push this, but being new to the 55s, I folded -- am I too tight? (Or maybe I too loose before [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])
***** Hand History for Game 2146079611 ***** NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:12761267 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, June 02, 23:38:16 EDT 2005 Table Table 18970 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 1: Dngr20KVolts ( $2855 ) Seat 3: dfscott1 ( $3160 ) Seat 4: Skooma ( $1090 ) Seat 5: onfire77 ( $1780 ) Seat 6: davidwhite1 ( $1115 ) Trny:12761267 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to dfscott1 [ Qc 8d ] davidwhite1 folds. Dngr20KVolts folds. Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not asking about Skooma's and onfire77's calling standards -- just the typical 55 player (and not curtains!) |
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I'd say your stack is VERY healthy, and the blinds are small compared to your stack. That's why this is a pass. Someone enlighten me... i'm just recently getting outa my $1300 downswing. I've discovered, that people DO seem to care about your image. How have u amassed your stack? I think on fire's calling range should be small (AQ+, TT+) However, because skooma has 990 after posting, he might be willing to gamble it up (A2+, KT+, 22+). These two ranges might be a bit tight for the players in those position. With that range, pushing Q8o is marginally +$EV (.4%). I think i pass here-- especially if you've been stealing lately. your stack is in great shape, no need to jeopordize it, right guys?
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I might try raising 3x bb here and calling a push by SB folding to push by BB.
From my perspective stealing from the BB here is huge, because if his stack shrinks a little bit, there is only really one stack you need to fear at all. 300 profit for 600 risk, I think that you will get FF at least twice for every time you get a push. |
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But then the problem of "poth hoddds" arrised. Your raise to 600, SB fold BB pushes for 1800. There is 1800+600+100 in the pot=2500, you have to call 1200. Folding when gettin 2:1 could be disastrous-- there ARE players who are willing to get frisky w/ marginal hands in this position (AT+, 55+, KQ etc...) and folding vs hose hands w/ Q8 gettin 2:1 IS BHHHAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD.
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Define bad? For me, bad is not landing in the money... after betting 600 i still have a very healthy stack and I can steal back my losses later. that 600 bet was a "stab" at the blinds, and I dont care about my pot odds after, I'm more worried about keeping my healthy stack.
Maybe this is a leak in my game? After I raise 600 and fold to an all in, the rest of my steals will be all in unless I land a monster. |
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Define bad? For me, bad is not landing in the money... after betting 600 i still have a very healthy stack and I can steal back my losses later. that 600 bet was a "stab" at the blinds, and I dont care about my pot odds after, I'm more worried about keeping my healthy stack. Maybe this is a leak in my game? After I raise 600 and fold to an all in, the rest of my steals will be all in unless I land a monster. [/ QUOTE ] I love to play against people like this. They raise, I push any two from the BB, they fold. It's like a reverse blind steal. The other fun ones are the SBs that complete when folded to them... |
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Basic ICM-- if you plan on folding to push. Assuming he pushes top 25% of hands.
fold 28.5% raise and win blinds 30% raisd and fold to push 25.5% so 25% of the time you get 25.5% of pool, and 75% u get 30%=28.75. So you gain an ICM of .25% by raising and folding if he pushes. I'm too lazy to do ICM for call... but i think it'd favor a call after raising to 600 |
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I'm making the jump from 33 to 55 as well right now, only about 20 in, but I definately feel a big difference from the 33's. Maybe i'm just on a downswing but I feel that my pushes are being called a lot more.
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You have 16 BB.
Chips = time. Time = the luxury to not have to push ish like Q8o Fold. |
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df:
i'm going to agree here with unarmed. there's probably chips to be made and ev to be made by simply pushing v. calling standards of your opponents, but i don't think that this is a spot where pushing is right. do you need this pot? are the chips a significant boost to you or hindrance to your opponents? you're going to get called only when you're behind, and that's a lot of variance to add to your game in order to pick up a few chips. meh, curtains is probably not going to like this analysis. if you must raise, i'd raise less than all in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] citanul |
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