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here's one i played a few nights ago that i was thinking about today. this hand was played at commerce, not online.
i had AA in the bb. utg+1 guy i dont know raises, folded around to me and i 3 bet, he calls. the flop is 862 and i bet and he calls. the turn is 9. i bet, he raises, i 3 bet, he 4 bets. should i 5 bet here or call and how close is it? |
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Just call down. Not close. One of you is drawing to two outs, no? Once he comes over your threebet, I'm inclined to think it's you. He might be in a position where he can continue to reraise confidently, and you're not. I think you're still ahead against another overpair some of the time here, but I don't think it's any better than 50-50 and probably worse.
That being said, you also put in 750 bets with AT with top pair and it was the best hand. So if you fivebet and were right, all is good. Only if you're right. -Michael |
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Unknown guy, without any read on him: he doesn't 4-bet pre-flop; he just calls the flop. Now he raises and 4-bets the turn when I've shown as much strength as possible. I'd just call him down with my one pair. And if it turns out he has a big pocket pair and I could have won one more bet, I wouldn't worry about it a few days later.
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He clearly has kings or queens here, I would've gone to a thousand bets if given the oppurtunity.
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How are you so sure (other than that mike posted this saying he was thinking about the hand two days later? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])
Would he not play the hand the same way with a flopped set? |
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Goodness. I agree w/ the venerable FOX. It seems one wants to put him on exactly KK because Qs, Js, and Ts feel more likely to give more action preflop, but Ks will get tricky, and mike l.'s already been tricky by not smooth calling the nuts preflop. Piffle. Set aside that if he does this with exactly KK, he also does this with sets: If there is an argument for open raising 98 2UTG, this is it. Some poor bastard with an overpair will go to the felt on the turn. God bless him.
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I would have check raised the turn. He'll bet with any hand that's drawing fairly live (e.g, pocket 7's, or some other pair-with-a-gutshot combo) and he might take a poke at it with a hand that's in real trouble. Also, there's nothing wrong with giving a hand like KQ a free card on a board like this.
In regards to the five bet decision, I don't know how anyone could comfortable comment on that if they weren't at the table with you when the hand took place. |
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this is the answer, i dont know why i bothered really, im pretty dumb:
"In regards to the five bet decision, I don't know how anyone could comfortable comment on that if they weren't at the table with you when the hand took place." the one nice thing is boopotts got it before shemp so that was good. anyway i did call the turn and then checked the river and he checked behind and i felt so so ashamed and wimpy when i flipped up my aces. the rest of the table looked at me and sighed as if to say "what a fuucking waste of a great hand, what a shame". very embarassing. my instinct was to 5 bet and 7 bet and shove it up his dumb asss and the fact i didnt do so means i needed to make this dumb thread and listen to all of you tell me im fine and i played fine and woah nelly slow down there 4 bets w/ one pair golly gee dont be silly. this sucks. i deserve it. so that's about all i guess. |
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mike l, you shift the goalposts. If the question is what to do against an unknown player as you posed it, there's an answer and it's based on a simple math question. If it has everything to do with tremors in the force, it's a different question, for which you haven't supplied the background, and not something to post about anyway. If you don't like checking the river with a potentially better hand (unless you plan to raise), well there's a strategy for that to.
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youre right im sorry. i want my default to be to 5 bet there and i want someone to tell me that's what it should be. immature enough for ya?
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