I cant beat $2 sngs / play money sngs (after 1000sngs)

AlphaWice · #1 06-26-2005, 07:32 PM

i feel so awful, i am actually trying and following the strategies (such as Aleomagus guide) to the letter, as well as my own strategies etc., yet I always lose in both playmoney sngs and $2 sngs at pokerchamps.. this isnt just like "i played 4 sngs", its somewhat statistically significant because I've now played 1000sngs with an average loss of about 10% of my buyin before rake.

strangely, in $5 sng I dominate with 16.6% return on my buyins after rake.. (only after like 200 so not really significant)

can someone give me advice? i am very good at math but why do I suck so hard at microlimit sng?

valenzuela · #2 06-26-2005, 07:34 PM

ok, calm down, take a deep breath, just how much rake are you paying.

AlphaWice · #3 06-26-2005, 07:40 PM

10% rake on all games

.. i just cant figure out how i am losing... i feel like i am always "bad beat" but i understand thats just in my mind and i must be winning coinflips just as often as I am losing them..

valenzuela · #4 06-26-2005, 07:45 PM

u simply suck at poker, i mean suck. Good news is that simply following a system you can beat all the low limit sngs( i do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] and we all do really)

Blarg · #5 06-26-2005, 07:55 PM

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10% rake on all games

.. i just cant figure out how i am losing... i feel like i am always "bad beat" but i understand thats just in my mind and i must be winning coinflips just as often as I am losing them..

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Unless you get down to heads up, most games have very few confrontations. You should easily be able to write down how much you're getting sucked out on vs. how often your hands hold up, if you want to do that to keep your perspective.

Sometimes it helps me a lot to see that the suck-outs against me aren't as frequent or as bad as I started to build them up in my mind to be.

valejo · #6 06-26-2005, 07:59 PM

It's hard to say without some examples and more information, but if you don't feel "confident" in the $2 buy-in tournaments, it's possible you are playing with scared money and are playing too passively or folding with the best hand too often.

AlphaWice · #7 06-26-2005, 08:02 PM

no, i had a 50 buyin roll and i am definetly not scared

the confidence thing was to find out whether i can beat $2, after a string of losses. I mean, i dont wanna continue to play a game where 'im the sucker'

so say the stack sizes are 14BB, 7BB, 4BB and (me) 4BB, and in the BB i get K8o, SB (7BB) min raises, should I fold?

trdi · #8 06-26-2005, 08:28 PM

Hmm, DO you fold here usually? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

flyingmoose · #9 06-26-2005, 08:35 PM

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no, i had a 50 buyin roll and i am definetly not scared

the confidence thing was to find out whether i can beat $2, after a string of losses. I mean, i dont wanna continue to play a game where 'im the sucker'

so say the stack sizes are 14BB, 7BB, 4BB and (me) 4BB, and in the BB i get K8o, SB (7BB) min raises, should I fold?

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Do you have 4BB before you post or after? Which stacks are in which positions? Has the SB been raping your BB repeatedly?

flyingmoose · #10 06-26-2005, 07:41 PM

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i am actually trying and following the strategies (such as Aleomagus guide) to the letter

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This is likely your problem. If you're playing $2 SnGs, then you're not playing on Party. The guide is extremely specific to the T800 games at party. 1500 chip games are different.

Frankly, I've read the guide, and I'm not convinced that someone could beat the Party 11s if they followed it to the T and did nothing else. You've still got to pay some attention to whom you're playing, put people on calling ranges, etc.