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Old 05-20-2005, 11:47 AM
jaxmike jaxmike is offline
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I am flattered by the fact that Kurto the Clown has become my personal stalker. Obviously he has a lot of fun replying to anything that I post; rarely ever using anything approaching a coherent thought in the posts that I had read before I initially ignored him, and in the two subsequent "second chances" that I gave him. I find it exciting, really, that he feels the need to constantly reply to anything that I post with, what I can only assume, are unflattering remarks. He consistently failed to disprove anything that I wrote. He consistently failed in his pitiful attempts at humor. He is purely, and simply (with the emphasis on simple) a troll. Not even a clever one like Dead (who apparently is out of classes for the summer and has something better to do than post on one of the most useless forums in the history of the internet).

The only motivation that I can think of for Kurto the Clown is that he fears me. But really, you have nothing to fear young man/woman. I simply am a supporter of personal freedom and responsibility. He doesn't like me (as much as he may claim to), or my "over the top for the hell of it" persona. I do support MOST of the positions that I present. However, his assertion that I am a parody is not entirely correct, though I do parody from time to time.

So, I am going to leave this forum under this name. Like a good Liberal he has used character assassination to discredit a lot of my real posts. That's fine though, he's only attacking that name. My challenge to Kurto the Clown is to point out who I am when I return under a different alias. If its really what I write that you parody, and not ME, then you should have no problem. Good luck Clown.
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Old 05-20-2005, 01:10 PM
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Obviously he has a lot of fun replying to anything that I post

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Who wouldn't? You make it so easy.

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rarely ever using anything approaching a coherent thought in the posts that I had read before I initially ignored him

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I wonder if, in Jax's little mind, the above is 'coherent?' Oh, irony is fun.

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ignored him, and in the two subsequent "second chances" that I gave him.

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Let's face it, my little lying friend, you've never ignored me. You're writing posts to me and about me. Actually, considering your ignorance, its possible you don't what the word 'ignore' means. Generally, when someone ignores them, they don't read what they write, they don't write to them and don't pay attention to them. Pretty much the exact opposite of what you're doing. Man, are you inept.

So, you've ignored me 3 times. And you're dedicating posts to me. Perhaps if you ignore me again, I'll have to give you my home address so we can become pen pals? Maybe we should use AOL Instant Messenger so you can send me Instant Messages all day about how you're ignoring me?

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I find it exciting, really, that he feels the need to constantly reply to anything that I post with, what I can only assume, are unflattering remarks.

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Why would you assume? You've read them all.... oh, right... wink, wink... you're ignoring me.

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He consistently failed to disprove anything that I wrote.

[/ QUOTE ] Ah, the always fun aribitrary denial. Remember, that in Jax's mind, if you say that he uses a word incorrectly, and you post the definition from 3 different dictionaries... you haven't proven anything. He's a hoot.

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(who apparently is out of classes for the summer and has something better to do than post on one of the most useless forums in the history of the internet).

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Strangely enough, I believe Jax is qualified to say this. He probably knows a lot about 'uselessness' and probably frequents all the forums 'in the history of the internet.' If anyone probable knows his way around useless forums, its probably Jaxmike. I defer to his expertise.

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The only motivation that I can think of for Kurto the Clown is that he fears me.

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Dead on! Just reading his posting I have chills going through my body. Nothing scares me more then reading the posts of strangers on an internet forum.

Imagine what goes on in the mind of someone who thinks people would fear him because of what they write on a politics forum? He CAN'T be for real. He's just too ridiculous... ridiculous, and SCARY. Let's just say that I don't turn down the lights when I read his posts. I'm too fearful.

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I simply am a supporter of personal freedom and responsibility.

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As long as you're not a gay and want to marry your partner. And as long as that responsibility isn't held by our leaders.

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He doesn't like me (as much as he may claim to), or my "over the top for the hell of it" persona

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Hard to like or dislike a stranger. I'm not even sure I think you're real. I will say I look forward to your postings. Whether you're a parody of a moronic troll or the real deal is really irrelevent. You are very amusing.

For instance, no 'normal' people would think that others 'fear' them. But you, real or not, think someone would fear you. Your self image is something else.

I would miss you if you left. You are hands down the funniest poster on this forum.

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I do support MOST of the positions that I present.

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So, SOME of the time, he admits to being dishonest.

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However, his assertion that I am a parody is not entirely correct, though I do parody from time to time.


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Not ENTIRELY correct? So, I'm kind of right? What the hell does that mean.

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So, I am going to leave this forum under this name.

[/ QUOTE ] So, you're switching names? LOL

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Like a good Liberal he has used character assassination to discredit a lot of my real posts.

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Ahh... yes, it was very 'good liberal' of me. That makes a lot of sense. And which were your 'real' posts and which ones weren't? Does that mean I properly discredited a lot of your fake posts?

I think its hilarious that you're changing names. What a child. Clearly you couldn't just put me on ignore. Even on ignore, you're so disturbed that you have to change your name? Develop a spine.

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That's fine though, he's only attacking that name.

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I'm attacking the nonsense that was written under that name.

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My challenge to Kurto the Clown is to point out who I am when I return under a different alias.

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If you promise to be as ridiculous and ignorant under your new name as you were under Jaxmike, then it should be easy.

Though here's the real question... how will you know if I won the challenge? Since you ignore all my posts, you'll never know?!? Oh, that's right. You're a liar and read my every word.
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:02 PM
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Who wouldn't? You make it so easy.


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You think so, but you are not funny, clever, or correct.

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rarely ever using anything approaching a coherent thought in the posts that I had read before I initially ignored him

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I wonder if, in Jax's little mind, the above is 'coherent?' Oh, irony is fun.

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Strange isn't it that you always arbitrarily make statements without supporting facts then accuse me of the same thing.

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Let's face it, my little lying friend, you've never ignored me. You're writing posts to me and about me.

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I went weeks without reading anything that you wrote. I had a laugh with friends on the phone about my stalker always replying to my posts that I paid no attention to. Recently I have become annoyed with you because you have continued baseless assaults on me without reason or provocation. You accuse me of everything that you are. You seem to have studied the playbook quite well.

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Actually, considering your ignorance, its possible you don't what the word 'ignore' means.

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More arbitratry comments from our resident clown. I could sit here and profess my intelligence, but is there really a way to prove it, not really. You can claim what you like whenever you like, you have shown that in your dozens of posts about me, and my posts, that make no sense whatsoever.

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Generally, when someone ignores them, they don't read what they write, they don't write to them and don't pay attention to them. Pretty much the exact opposite of what you're doing. Man, are you inept.

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No, I ignored you completely. Then decided that I had ignored you long enough, so I gave your posts a second chance. Big mistake. Still no substance or clarity. Only random and poorly constructed insults based on your irrational hatred.

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So, you've ignored me 3 times. And you're dedicating posts to me. Perhaps if you ignore me again, I'll have to give you my home address so we can become pen pals? Maybe we should use AOL Instant Messenger so you can send me Instant Messages all day about how you're ignoring me?

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I don't know what to say to this. You can think what you will. But I will not ignore you anymore. I do not wish to converse with you. You seem to have very little to say and are clearly not capable of holding a serious discussion.

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I find it exciting, really, that he feels the need to constantly reply to anything that I post with, what I can only assume, are unflattering remarks.

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Why would you assume? You've read them all.... oh, right... wink, wink... you're ignoring me.

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I have read very few of your posts. Occasionally I would accidently be subjected to your drivel when reading someones reply to you, but that is all.

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He consistently failed to disprove anything that I wrote.

[/ QUOTE ] Ah, the always fun aribitrary denial. Remember, that in Jax's mind, if you say that he uses a word incorrectly, and you post the definition from 3 different dictionaries... you haven't proven anything. He's a hoot.

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Ahh, more arbitrary statements from our resident joke. Funny thing is that I used all the words correctly, and he knows it. There is such a thing as alternate definitions. You haven't proven anything other than your immaturity and lack of wit.
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I simply am a supporter of personal freedom and responsibility.

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As long as you're not a gay and want to marry your partner. And as long as that responsibility isn't held by our leaders.

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I have my beliefs. All in all I support personal freedom. I also do not believe that same sex couples should be granted a marriage. The word means, and has meant for hundreds of years, a union between a man and a woman. I see no logical reason that we should change the definition of the word. If you want to grant same sex couples a civil union, thats fine, give them all the rights of a married couple, but make the process just as legally binding. Further, I see no stopping the moral decline in this country if we do not put a stop to it somewhere. Soon Kurto will be able to marry his sister and his mom because incest and polygamy have no rational arguments against them that gay marriage doesnt.

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Hard to like or dislike a stranger. I'm not even sure I think you're real. I will say I look forward to your postings. Whether you're a parody of a moronic troll or the real deal is really irrelevent. You are very amusing.

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You sure seem to dislike me. I am glad you look forward to my postings. I just wish you would pay more attention and learn something rather than dismissing anything that I write arbitrarily. I have a lot of valuable knowledge that you need to learn, pitty that you so crassly ignore it.

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For instance, no 'normal' people would think that others 'fear' them. But you, real or not, think someone would fear you. Your self image is something else.

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Sorry, I jumped to a conclusion. You are from Connecticut, or at least thats what I remember seeing under location. I just assumed that you were a government school educated resident. Thus you would fear my speech because it goes against the indoctrination you have recieved. Also, your posts convinced me of your ignorance and with ignorance comes fear.

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I would miss you if you left. You are hands down the funniest poster on this forum.

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I agree with that. I would also say that hands down I am one of the most intelligent, but you will surely laugh at that. Your consistently arbitrary attacks will never change the truth my ignorant stalker, I am usually right, and far more learned than you.

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So, SOME of the time, he admits to being dishonest.


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Some of the time I admit to being over the top. But it should be clear that I am doing it to make a sarcastic point. I imagine that subtlety is wasted on the likes of you.

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Not ENTIRELY correct? So, I'm kind of right? What the hell does that mean.

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If you hadn't been government school educated I would be suprised that you couldn't comprehend this. Basically, it means that I do engage in parody from time to time. However, I am not a walking talking parody as you so arbitrarily and repetitively suggest.

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So, I am going to leave this forum under this name.

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I simply do not wish for every post that I make to be followed by some arbitrarily foolish response from you.

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Ahh... yes, it was very 'good liberal' of me. That makes a lot of sense. And which were your 'real' posts and which ones weren't? Does that mean I properly discredited a lot of your fake posts?

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You can't win the arguments. You can't win on the issues. Your positions are always on the wrong side of history. So, instead of admitting your shortcomings, you attack me. It's straight from the playbook, I forget what page.

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I think its hilarious that you're changing names. What a child. Clearly you couldn't just put me on ignore. Even on ignore, you're so disturbed that you have to change your name? Develop a spine.

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I have a spine, I simply would rather post in a more, well, serious manner for a while. I am sick of playing the game. However, I do not think it will do much good. Too many people are too steeped in their beliefs to ever learn the truth. I don't think this forum does much of anything to facilitate learning, only ignorance. I submit you as exibit A.

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That's fine though, he's only attacking that name.

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I'm attacking the nonsense that was written under that name.

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We shall see.

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My challenge to Kurto the Clown is to point out who I am when I return under a different alias.

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If you promise to be as ridiculous and ignorant under your new name as you were under Jaxmike, then it should be easy.

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Ahh. More arbitrary accusations of ignorance. I point out that I have VERY rarely been wrong. Everyone can make a mistake, but I usually post factually accurate information. Though you simply do not accept it.

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Though here's the real question... how will you know if I won the challenge? Since you ignore all my posts, you'll never know?!? Oh, that's right. You're a liar and read my every word.

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If you point me out, then I will say, bingo, you got it. I will not ignore your posts under my other name. (it's not like I am starting a NEW name, I have my poker posting name here as well) I do not read your every word. Aside from this one post, I can't recall ever reading an entire post you wrote, let alone the first line to see the first insult.
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Old 05-20-2005, 11:33 PM
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(WARNING.. this is a long one for Jax... I wouldn't recommend anyone reading it. Though there's some fun facts on the history of gay marriage half way through.)
Why did I know Jax would respond? He did a bang-up job on ignoring me. LOL This is too easy.

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You think so, but you are not funny, clever, or correct.


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I'm not sure which part you mean. "you make it so easy"... I'm not the only one who lampoons your postings. You are so predictable and full of cliches that you almost seem to mock yourself. Even within your reply your taunts were so "rush limbaugh lite." I'm surprised you didn't toss in a 'socialist' remark like you do so often.

"clever," I agree. One doesn't have to be clever... since you make it so easy.

"correct" Well, usually when I post articles contradicting you, you just ignore them or insult. I'll prove how you're wrong in this very thread.

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Strange isn't it that you always arbitrarily make statements without supporting facts then accuse me of the same thing.

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Again with your reading comprehension problems. I'll spell it out for you since you're slow.

You claimed I made a coherent thought... but your sentence was so incoherent, that I found it ironic: "Obviously he has a lot of fun replying to anything that I post; rarely ever using anything approaching a coherent thought in the posts that I had read before I initially ignored him, and in the two subsequent "second chances" that I gave him."

In your advanced education, were you taught to write coherent sentences like the one above?

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Recently I have become annoyed with you because you have continued baseless assaults on me without reason or provocation.

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How could you be annoyed by posts you aren't reading? How can you say my assaults are baseless without reason or provocation if you weren't reading them? You are dumber then a post.

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You seem to have studied the playbook quite well.


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Yes... the 'playbook.' I have been studying it. How did you know about the playbook? I thought it was a secret.

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More arbitratry comments from our resident clown.

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I don't think you even know what arbitrary means. I said you didn't even know what ignore means. You call it arbitrary. Let's show why it wasn't arbitrary. You've repeatedly gone out of your way to tell me how you're ignoring me. (I'm sure you already don't see the foolishness of that.)

Quick definitions (ignore)
verb: fail to notice (You failed to notice me so much, you got annoyed and had to change your name)
verb: refuse to acknowledge (for example... you didn't just acknowledge me by writing a post to me, reading my response and replying to it. I felt quite acknowledged. You are reading this now and acknowledging me)
verb: give little or no attention to (I guess if you consider reading my posts and writing to me 'giving no attention to' then you've done a bang-up job of ignoring me.)
verb: bar from attention or consideration (Yep... you've given me no attention or consideration.)

You clearly didn't know what ignore means. You're probably written more to me and about me then anyone else on this forum. Great job of ignoring me!

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I could sit here and profess my intelligence, but is there really a way to prove it, not really.

[/ QUOTE ] Well, you've done pretty good and showing your ignorance, try doing the opposite of what you've shown here. Maybe you'll seem brilliant? Worth a shot.

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No, I ignored you completely.

[/ QUOTE ] Yes. If anything you've proven today its how thoroughly you've ignored me.

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Then decided that I had ignored you long enough, so I gave your posts a second chance. Big mistake. Still no substance or clarity. Only random and poorly constructed insults based on your irrational hatred.


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I'm actually curious about this. You're constantly accusing others of 'irrational hatred.' Why is that a buzzword with you guys? Most of the time people aren't showing hatred, and most people post rationalizations for what they write. I tell you exactly why I mock you. I give a rationale. You should pick up some new cliched buzz words.

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But I will not ignore you anymore. I do not wish to converse with you.

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Are you making a joke here? I can't decide if I'm giving you too much credit or not. If you are being clever, then bravo. If you aren't making a joke here, you're more confused then I thought.

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You seem to have very little to say and are clearly not capable of holding a serious discussion.

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Oh I have plenty of serious discussions. But why would I have a serious discussion with someone who appears to be a parody?

Here's an example where you're wrong:
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I also do not believe that same sex couples should be granted a marriage. The word means, and has meant for hundreds of years, a union between a man and a woman.

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Really? Did you study the derivation of the word? Let's take a look: (from http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/marriage.htm)
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Consulting my Grand Larousse – and the Oxford English Dictionary for good measure – I discover that the word "marry" comes from the Latin term for "a husband" (maritus), which comes from the Latin word for "a man" (mas, maris). The notion of "marriage" therefore doesn't seem to refer to "wives".

Theoretically a person who gets "married" may take either a husband or a wife. But if we look at the history of "marriage" ceremonies, we will note that the most common meaning is, indeed, "to take a husband".
This provokes a number of conclusions: (1) a woman may "marry" a husband; (2) a man may "marry" a husband; and (3) a woman may not "marry" a woman. That is, lesbians cannot "marry" one another without violating the laws of linguistics, but gay men can.

So much for words. Let us now peruse the tarnished pages of history. Gay men seem to have frequently married one another throughout history. In fact, in some societies marriages between gay men were officially recognized by the state, as in ancient Sparta, and on the Dorian island of Thera.

Much later, in 2nd century Rome, conjugal contracts between men of about the same age were ridiculed but legally binding. Such marriages were blessed by pagan religions, particularly sects of the Mother Goddess Cybele (imported from Asia Minor). At the ceremony, the bridal party consists entirely of men, who enter the temple and deck each other with "gay fillets round the forehead . . . and strings of orient perals." They light a torch in honor of the goddess and sacrifice a pregnant swine. One man gets up and chooses a husband for himself, and dances himself into a frenzy. Then he drinks deeply from a goblet in the shape of a large penis, flings the goblet away, strips off his clothes, and "takes the stole and flammea of a bride" and the two men are married.

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Wow, Jax is shown to be ignorant again! SUPRISE.

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Wow, I haven't heard that before. Jax parroting cliches conservative BS. First off; you aren't the arbiter of morals. Too many, two adult males marrying is no more a moral decline then when a black person couldn't marry a white person. Though bigots then cried it was the beginning of a moral decline. You're just a 21st century bigot, my friend.

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You are from Connecticut, or at least thats what I remember seeing under location. I just assumed that you were a government school educated resident.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm not familiar with this stereotype of yours. (you are so fond of stupid baseless stereotypes.) What Connecticut has to do with what school I attended is a mystery. I'm sure in your mind you said something clever here.

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Thus you would fear my speech because it goes against the indoctrination you have recieved.

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Ahh... the Connecticut government school indoctrination. I find it hard to believe this even means anything to you. And you still think you're scary?

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I would also say that hands down I am one of the most intelligent, but you will surely laugh at that.

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I guarantee you I wasn't the only one laughing. But thanks. that was a good one.

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Too many people are too steeped in their beliefs to ever learn the truth.

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Ironic.

" I will not ignore your posts under my other name. " Just like you didn't ignore me under this name.

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Aside from this one post, I can't recall ever reading an entire post you wrote, let alone the first line to see the first insult.

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If I wasn't so lazy, I guarantee you I could go back to an earlier thread where you've commented on every line in a post I made. Way to maintain credibility!
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:10 PM
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Soon Kurto will be able to marry his sister and his mom because incest and polygamy have no rational arguments against them that gay marriage doesnt.

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A rational argument against incest is that having children with close relatives increases the probability of genetic defects through the reinforcement of harmful recessive genes. This hardly applies to gay marriage.

I can't think of a similar argument against polygamy. The again, I don't really see any reason polygamy should be illegal.

Now that I think about it, I don't think I've read or heard a rational argument against gay marriage yet. I've heard all kinds of irrational ones, of which the quoted one is a good example. For that matter, even if we were to repeal laws against incestuous marriages, which I don't advocate, I don't think we would see rash of brother-sister, mother son and father-daughter marriages. There just aren't very many people who have the desire to do so.
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:52 PM
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Old 05-20-2005, 07:50 PM
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My copy ends with 'and they all work here' [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:06 PM
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You guys are really cute together [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I hope things work out [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:32 PM
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Maybe they can move to Massachusetts and have a gay marriage.
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Old 05-20-2005, 05:39 PM
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i think jax is more of a civil union type of guy... he doesn't let love get in the way of his ideologies...
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