When playing another 2+2er....

[Scuba Chuck]

What would you do in this scenario? ILYA is trying to push me around here...

#Game No : 1467269512
***** Hand History for Game 1467269512 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:8854378 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, January 21, 00:45:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 14893 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: pokrstar22 ( $1895 )
Seat 3: mowrmowr ( $1105 )
Seat 4: kaufman77 ( $1085 )
Seat 7: Scuba_Chuck ( $1635 )
Seat 8: artyom1234 ( $930 )
Seat 9: ian486 ( $745 )
Seat 10: mrzarembsky ( $605 )
Trny:8854378 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Ac Kd ]
mowrmowr: i'm goot
mrzarembsky: why the think?
mowrmowr folds.
kaufman77 folds.
PeteySmooth: isn't that an autopush?
Scuba_Chuck raises [175].
artyom1234 folds.
ian486 folds.
>You have options at Table 13876 Table!.
mrzarembsky: that seems pretty standard to me
>You have options at Table 13876 Table!.
mrzarembsky: now *I* have a decision
PeteySmooth: hey mowrmowr....what's ur 'other' name?
mrzarembsky calls [150].
pokrstar22 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 7s, Jd ]
mrzarembsky is all-In [430]
Scuba_Chuck folds.
mrzarembsky does not show cards.
mrzarembsky wins 830 chips
stop n pop
what no show?
Game #1467273507 starts.

[Irieguy]

Remember that the oft-quoted "10 times Big Blind" rule applies not only to your stack, but the stack of your opponent.

Ilya was kind enough to show you why, and even explain it to you, which; apparently he likes to do a lot.

Also, you could have relied on another tried and true raising rule: "raise an extra big blind for every chat box entry your opponent has made." I realize that there aren't enough chips in play to allow anybody to apply this rule with regard to Ilya... but it's a helpful guide nonetheless.

Irieguy

[ilya]

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Remember that the oft-quoted "10 times Big Blind" rule applies not only to your stack, but the stack of your opponent.

Ilya was kind enough to show you why, and even explain it to you, which; apparently he likes to do a lot.

Also, you could have relied on another tried and true raising rule: "raise an extra big blind for every chat box entry your opponent has made." I realize that there aren't enough chips in play to allow anybody to apply this rule with regard to Ilya... but it's a helpful guide nonetheless.

Irieguy

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Heheh....ouch....point taken, though. I swear I don't table coach nearly as much when it's not 2 AM and I'm not trying to keep myself awake!

Am I really notorious for table coaching a lot?? Or are you just making fun of me based on the chat for that hand? My dad's a professor and my mom's a tour guide...I have to swim against the current to keep my mouth shut...

Anyway....Scuba, I had TT.

P.S. Who's mowrmowr?!

P.P.S. Wait, Irie, I'm kinda confused...what are you talking about? No one in this hand has <10xBB...

[Irieguy]

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Heheh....ouch....point taken, though. I swear I don't table coach nearly as much when it's not 2 AM and I'm not trying to keep myself awake!

Am I really notorious for table coaching a lot?? Or are you just making fun of me based on the chat for that hand?
Anyway....Scuba, I had TT.

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I'm just playing around. I know you have a sense of humor from some of your posts.

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P.P.S. Wait, Irie, I'm kinda confused...what are you talking about? No one in this hand has <10xBB...

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I think you had around 600 chips with the BB $50? Close enough.

[schwza]

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I think you had around 600 chips with the BB $50? Close enough.

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but SB had T750. this would be a weird push from hero in my book.

[Scuba Chuck]

Seriously now, reflecting more on this hand...

Knowing my opponent the way I do, with AK, I probably should fold this hand Preflop. His range of hands, probably are AK, AA, KK, QQ, JJ.

What do you think?

[ilya]

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Heheh....ouch....point taken, though. I swear I don't table coach nearly as much when it's not 2 AM and I'm not trying to keep myself awake!

Am I really notorious for table coaching a lot?? Or are you just making fun of me based on the chat for that hand?
Anyway....Scuba, I had TT.

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I'm just playing around. I know you have a sense of humor from some of your posts.

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Looks like you're giving me altogether too much credit... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[The Yugoslavian]

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Ilya was kind enough to show you why, and even explain it to you, which; apparently he likes to do a lot.
Irieguy

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Zing!

FWIW Scuba called an allin with AK the previous hand to become one of the bigger stacks (I believe?).

Ilya: I like your stop n go here rather than coming over the top for all of your chips. If you are dealing with overcards you don't want Scuba to have the whole 5 card board with which to pair. Thus, putting him to the test after 3 cards isn't a bad idea as you may have more FE than ramming preflop (where he probably calls with ~1.6 to 1 pot odds).

I'm wondering what you think Scuba's range of hands is here? I'd imagine it's big enough to play TT here but perhaps not. There are several hands TT is dominated by and it's only a small favorite against the rest (I doubt Scuba would make this play with a small pp, perhaps 99 or 88 I suppose though). I would love to know your thoughts as I have my own ideas about which hands Scuba is representin'.

Also, who thinks mowrmowr should change his name to roarroar?? I think this would instantly net him a 5% increase in ROI. Hell, it very well might net *me* a 5% increase in ROI -- so n/m, I guess I'll be the one changing my name, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

[Scuba Chuck]

I owe Citanul an apology. Open mouth, insert foot.

Ok, I did open raise. So yes, I like my play here. And, I like ILYA's play. And, I like my fold, especially since I went on to win. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[citanul]

No apology necessary. Don't worry bout it.

I think I like the play of the hand all around, maybe occasionally calling, or something. But seeing as how you went on to win, clearly fold was the right play [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

citanul