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Old 05-26-2005, 05:12 PM
KSOT KSOT is offline
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Default Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, BB folds.

River: (11.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

What do you think about THAT one?
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

3-bet the flop.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

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3-bet the flop.

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You're a champion today, Nick.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

I was a milisecond away from clicking raise there, but... the UTG was a pretty good player I thought and I was worried.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

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I was a milisecond away from clicking raise there, but... the UTG was a pretty good player I thought and I was worried.

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A good player will not only raise better hands than JJ here. Far from.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

KSOT said:
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50. . . . I was a milisecond away from clicking raise there, but... the UTG was a pretty good player I thought and I was worried.

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You have somewhere between 2 and 4-ish outs; I fold this cheese on the flop given that this is the one time this blue moon that the raiser found something other than the 'call any' button.

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Milesdyson frowns. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

3bet flop and go from there.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

I really don't get it. Why should I 3-bet a flop if I really feel I'm beat? How is that not spewing? I'm thinking maybe I should've just folded there.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:20 PM
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I really don't get it. Why should I 3-bet a flop if I really feel I'm beat? How is that not spewing? I'm thinking maybe I should've just folded there.

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Most people will raise the flop with top pair. You have an overpair. UTG could be raising A9s or K9s here, thinking that his nines are best. 3bet it and if it is capped then call it down.
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Jacks look good at the flop, but the betting is scary...

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I'm thinking maybe I should've just folded there.

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Folding there would be awful. 3-bet, lead the turn.
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