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06-03-2005, 11:18 AM
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How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
This question seems to come up a lot. Particularly, questions like "where can I find that "aleo's guide thing." I wanted to share the reason that such a question personally gets a little on my nerves.
Say I'm a new poster, looking to do, oh, ANY research in this forum. Basically, the first thing I'm doing when I get to the forum front page is to try to find out what are the most viewed threads, and the most replied to threads, in the currently available history of the forum. The most viewed threads: here. The most replied to threads: here. Now, honestly, when I go and look, many of the most responded to posts in the forum just aren't that great. But well, the top of the "most viewed" list is almost exactly what you'd expect it to be. Maybe the problem is that people have (fairly recently I think) started referring to it as "aleo's guide" instead of the "beating the party 10+1s" as I think was pretty common previously. As an interesting note, here's what happens when you go to the "recent archives" and do the same thing: The most viewed threads: here. The most replied to threads: here. Anyway, that's just my helpful links for people or something for the day, and my 2 cents on why I find it a little silly to keep linking to this stuff all the time, even without mentioning the search function. citanul 
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06-03-2005, 12:03 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
I remember making an effort to get a
 for my 88 post 3 weeks ago, but it doesn't show up any of the links you provided (here or here). The post itself isn't memorable, but it demonstrates the limitations of the forum. It is too old for the first list, and too new for the second list. A lot of posts simply cannot be found unless you know what to look for.
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#3
06-03-2005, 12:22 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
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A lot of posts simply cannot be found unless you know what to look for. [/ QUOTE ] So we have a catch 22 in many cases. I know i miss out on a lot of good posts because i simply didnt know it was there. Shadows post pointed out at least 5 good solid threads that i simply didnt know existed. So what goes first, the horse or the cart? Phill
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#4
06-03-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
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I remember making an effort to get a for my 88 post 3 weeks ago, but it doesn't show up any of the links you provided (here or here). The post itself isn't memorable, but it demonstrates the limitations of the forum. It is too old for the first list, and too new for the second list. A lot of posts simply cannot be found unless you know what to look for. [/ QUOTE ] I just printed the advice for Levels 3 and 4. Great content. Thanks alot. Edit: I see that I replied under the wrong post. What I am referring to can be found under PVS's response to The Shadow's post about stickying favorite threads. Either way, great posts...
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06-03-2005, 04:28 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
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[ QUOTE ] I remember making an effort to get a for my 88 post 3 weeks ago, but it doesn't show up any of the links you provided (here or here). The post itself isn't memorable, but it demonstrates the limitations of the forum. It is too old for the first list, and too new for the second list. A lot of posts simply cannot be found unless you know what to look for. [/ QUOTE ] I just printed the advice for Levels 3 and 4. Great content. Thanks alot. Edit: I see that I replied under the wrong post. What I am referring to can be found under PVS's response to The Shadow's post about stickying favorite threads. Either way, great posts... [/ QUOTE ] Is this some sort of evil bait-and-switch post? I'd like to read that thread as well, but I feel like now I have to go on some sort of scavenger hunt to find it... Edit: ok, found it. I'll save others the trouble of digging for it.
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06-03-2005, 04:43 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
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Is this some sort of evil bait-and-switch post? I'd like to read that thread as well, but I feel like now I have to go on some sort of scavenger hunt to find it... Edit: ok, found it. I'll save others the trouble of digging for it. [/ QUOTE ] Now I'm confused... all this handwringing over whether it is too easy for newbies to find stuff and I turn PVS's post into an Easter Egg hunt. At least I can't be accused of making it too easy! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Come to think of it, as one of the "fish" cleaning up on the 11s and 22s that you guys are talking about, I really don't have a problem working a little bit to find this stuff. But I'm not too worried about the average 11 or 22 player getting his hands on this and becoming competitive. They would have to 1) Find this site 2) Admit to themselves that there are better players that they can learn from and 3) Put in the effort to learn and improve. If they do all that, more power to 'em.
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#8
06-03-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
design of the front page would be a good start, it really needs some hierarchy...it would be cool to see the main topics break out into subtopics and you could stick a item in there for popular threads
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#9
06-03-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: How are newbies supposed to find anything good?
I've been here for awhile and never noticed that handy feature. This definitely weeds through a lot of the crap automatically.
I'm such an idiot.
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