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Old 08-31-2005, 10:27 AM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default AKo passssssive. kinda

villian here if i remember correctly is a 23/12/1 or 2 type player. so fairly tight, and agressive. these types tend to be ok pre and post flop but not good and not bad overall, but can show times of being either good or bad

i get AKo in EP and raise. villian 3 bets i cap he calls.

flop is ugly, kinda. AQJ no flush draw. i bet he pauses briefly and calls.

turn is a blank. i check he checks behind.

river i bet.

-Barron
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:33 AM
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Interesting hand. I like it up until the river, where I think a check/call is the better line.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:51 AM
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Interesting hand. I like it up until the river, where I think a check/call is the better line.

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Edit: I decided to add my reason... many good players will check that turn behind you with the nuts, or a very strong hand in order to get just that extra bet on the river. It may not seem to make sense at first glance, but often they realize or have decided that it's more likely you'll bet yourself and fold to a raise/bet than play back at them.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: AKo passssssive. kinda

No good player has K10 there, and no good player that did would call with it on the flop.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:41 PM
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No good player has K10 there, and no good player that did would call with it on the flop.

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You think YOU know enough about poker to post. Scamming people for money and then losing it on 2c/4c.

Beware of this guy!
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:29 PM
xniNja xniNja is offline
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Default Re: AKo passssssive. kinda

Note I said the nuts, or a very good hand- and generalized the situation past the particular hand. Now, in the case of the particular hand it's not unreasonable to think the player could have KTs anyway, or AQ, or JJ. You also provided no analysis or evidence, so I have no idea where you get the idea that a good player wouldn't have KTs, or call the flop if they did.

The point is simply theres no real value in a river bet after checking the turn (which is not a bad play in itself)... you generally only get called or raised by a hand that beats you, whereas a worse hand may bet if you check.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:40 AM
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villian here if i remember correctly is a 23/12/1 or 2 type player. so fairly tight, and agressive. these types tend to be ok pre and post flop but not good and not bad overall, but can show times of being either good or bad

i get AKo in EP and raise. villian 3 bets i cap he calls.

flop is ugly, kinda. AQJ no flush draw. i bet he pauses briefly and calls.

turn is a blank. i check he checks behind.

river i bet.

-Barron

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Please explain reasoning for turn check. I am really curious about your thought process here.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:43 AM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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i check the turn because 1 i have outs to call, i may be ahead and he may be drawing nearly dead (5% or so) w/ something like 99/88. TT is the one hand i want to bet b/c he may call and its very profitable for me.

Barron
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:46 AM
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i check the turn because 1 i have outs to call, i may be ahead and he may be drawing nearly dead (5% or so) w/ something like 99/88. TT is the one hand i want to bet b/c he may call and its very profitable for me.

Barron

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I think you played this hand very well.
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:34 PM
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i may be ahead and he may be drawing nearly dead (5% or so) w/ something like 99/88.

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You really think he's calling the flop bet with a mid pair after you just capped preflop from EP and the board comes all Zone cards? I don't.

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