22 in the BB

[Diplomat]

I've been reforming my game of late due to a bad run online, and one of the spots I think I'm leaking chips is from the blinds. What do you guys think of this hand? (it was played in a B+M, but is a suitable example)

30-60 full game. I am dealt 22 in the BB. Folded to an aggressive button who does not respect me at all, who raises. A predictable player folds the small blind, I call.

The flop is KK3. Check/check.

The turn is a 4. Bet/raise/call.

The river is a 7. Check/bet/call.

I lost to pocket nines. Anyone play it differently? All thoughts and comments are appriciated.

-Diplomat

[Vehn]

Nah.

[trillig]

I'd have folded to the pre-flop raise, 22 is a long shot.

-t

[Diplomat]

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I'd have folded to the pre-flop raise, 22 is a long shot.


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Against what? I actually thought about three-betting.

-Diplomat

[nykenny]

3 betting is best against HYPER-aggressive trash player, IMO. but i would also consider that as one of the options in your situation.

[trillig]

Unless you flop a 2, you are in trouble from the start, I have lately come to hate small pairs, learning to dump them is hard, but getting easier.

Take a look at this:

http://www.twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b...0A%0D%0A%0D%0A

JT offsuite is actually a favorite over 22.

Figure this simple logic too:

His 2 cards, if paired, you are beat if no 2 hits, and still could be if his does. (unless he is in there with the other 2's LOL)

If 5 different cards hit the board and he has 2 different cards...

6 outs with 5 cards to come... on average he will hit one of them how often?

You get a str8 with your 2? well 6 would also...

Problem solved for me, easy fold. I'd rather play 87s then 22, any day.

2's make for lousy bet fellows, I save my bets for better op fare, 2 outs stinks at least for me...

-t

[Billy LTL]

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I am dealt 22 in the BB. Folded to an aggressive button who does not respect me at all, who raises

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Been there, done that.

I'm a slow learner so it took me a couple of times to realize that I just hated trying to figure out how to play an unimproved 22 from my blind on the turn.

I just fold them preflop now. It makes life easier.

Billy

[rivaridge]

I would fold this unless there are enough callers (with a little implied odds factored in) to justify drawing for trips. 2-2 is a very weak hand and its even weaker out of position. (I know people are going to argue that their brilliant play postflop play will justfiy playing this hand but I dont buy these arguments especially out of position.)

[Vehn]

I'm not folding the 13th best heads up hand while getting 3.666666666:1. I'm very sorry its a difficult hand to play. Feel free to peddle the nuts if that's your thing, but I'm playing.

The only time I would even consider folding here is, well, against an opponent as described in the original post. But in general I play it and expect to make money with it.

[nykenny]

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I'm not folding the 13th best heads up hand while getting 3.666666666:1

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in fact, you should point out that 22 is the 13th nuts on 2nd street [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]