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I'm guessing this has been discussed on this forum in some other threads, but I dont get in here often enough to read every single one. So if there is a link that would help me that would be awesome.
I realize that Christians get around the incosistencies of evolution vs the creation stories by saying that genesis isnt meant to be taken literally, etc. But how do they get around the conflict between the randomness of evolution vs the intelligent design suggested by the bible? Is there even an answer or do they just kind of ignore it? Do they simply reject the theory of evolution? What is the vaticans official position? |
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Googling 'theistic evolution', I get these:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html http://www.theistic-evolution.com/ http://www.theisticevolution.org/ Hope they help. I have no idea on the vatican. |
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How do Jews respond to evolution is a better question IMHO.
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How do Jews respond to evolution is a better question IMHO. [/ QUOTE ] Well I was raised christian but this forum is making me question my religion (i hope this makes your day david)....so thats why im more interested in the christian position. |
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Well I was raised christian ... so thats why im more interested in the christian position. [/ QUOTE ] This is why I have qualms with "following the religion of your father". |
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Well I was raised christian but this forum is making me question my religion [/ QUOTE ] Well, that is going to make all your religion classes at USD all the more fun! |
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But how do they get around the conflict between the randomness of evolution [/ QUOTE ] Could you clarify this for me? Jeff |
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But how do they get around the conflict between the randomness of evolution vs the intelligent design suggested by the bible? [/ QUOTE ] You should say the "randomness preached by evolutionists", since they can't show that chance exists. There's no need to "get around" it since its existence can't be proved. How do evolutionists get around the meaninglessness of the universe and the non-existence of morality if chance IS ultimate? |
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[ QUOTE ] But how do they get around the conflict between the randomness of evolution vs the intelligent design suggested by the bible? [/ QUOTE ] You should say the "randomness preached by evolutionists", since they can't show that chance exists. There's no need to "get around" it since its existence can't be proved. [/ QUOTE ] Incorrect. Chance is merely one component of evolution, namely on the molecular level (genetic mutations) and selection pressure due to the changing environment. Except for the inherent uncertainty on the quantum level, even these processes do follow cause and effect relationships, though they are so complicated that they appear to be random. And yes, genetic mutations and environmental perturbations can be measured and proved to be (approximate) random processes. [ QUOTE ] How do evolutionists get around the meaninglessness of the universe and the non-existence of morality if chance IS ultimate? [/ QUOTE ] Evolution, like all other scientific theories, has nothing to do with ethics. You might as well ask how chemists, geologists, and astronomers "get around" the supposed meaninglessness of the universe. Nor are all those who accept evolution atheists. Many "evolutionists" are also christians who follow a biblical-based morality. Likewise, many atheists find profound meaning in the universe and follow a well-defined code of ethics. How do theists get around the meaningless of living only to follow the inexplicable edicts of an incomprehensible "god?" |
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