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Old 11-14-2005, 12:12 AM
Walker Walker is offline
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Default live hand--flop play with AQ

4/8

CO plays ~50% of his hands and is of average agression.

6 limpers, I raise A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in SB, bb and everybody calls

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, pretty much everybody calls, CO raises, Hero???

Plan for the rest of the hand?

With the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it's an easy 3bet, right?
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

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4/8

CO plays ~50% of his hands and is of average agression.

6 limpers, I raise A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in SB, bb and everybody calls

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, pretty much everybody calls, CO raises, Hero???

Plan for the rest of the hand?

With the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it's an easy 3bet, right?

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i'm counting eight players to the flop, am I right? 16small bets? I think at such a big family pot, I call here and lead the turn if not dangerous. I'll call a turn raise. If he raises the turn, and I improve on the river I bet, if not, c/c. If he doesn't raise the turn, on the river I go on reads. Does he slow play? If he LOVES to slow play sets and 2pair, I c/c the river. If he's less tricky I lead the river.

Anyone else's thoughts?

I think you played the hand fine.
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

oops--too late to edit


I just wanted to note that I saw CO raise the nut flush draw in a similar spot (tons of opponents and last to act), and he didn't take the freecard on the turn when he missed his flush.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

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I just wanted to note that I saw CO raise the nut flush draw in a similar spot (tons of opponents and last to act), and he didn't take the freecard on the turn when he missed his flush.

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well, if he's prone to do this often, c/raise the turn! Get e.body out! i would want to give a free river card though.

I think other people would recommend re-raising this flop. You can get others out sooner and build a pot that you are a favourite to win. People fear flushes, but they only hit about 1/3 of the time!
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

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oops--too late to edit


I just wanted to note that I saw CO raise the nut flush draw in a similar spot (tons of opponents and last to act), and he didn't take the freecard on the turn when he missed his flush.

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call, c/r turn. big pot, everyone basically has odds to call on the flop. Face them with 2 big bets on the turn.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

Hi Walker,

I think with the field of callers on a draw rich board, your best play is to three-bet. CO actually did you a favor, in an odd way. Betting the flop is fine, but I would have loved to check-raise this flop to thin the field. However, you just can't be sure it would get checked to a LP bettor instead of checked around. So this situation is similar. Your reraise will also help define the rest of your opponents' hands, while putting pressure on them to chase for two more bets.

This is one of those situations in 4/8 play that will come up frequently, where you'll have to be able to play optimally postflop. Keep in mind you may very well be ahead still, but if you're going to get outdrawn, don't let them do it for cheap.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:05 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

This is an easy three-bet regardless of the suit of your A.

There is nothing else really to do here if you have any hope of possibly protecting your hand. You are likely way ahead of all the flop callers. There is no reason to do something silly like call and check-raise the turn to increase your protection, because if your opponent is raising a draw and the turn checks behind you're in horrible shape.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

posting well i see
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

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This is an easy three-bet regardless of the suit of your A.

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I agree, you have to jam it while you are still ahead. You want to drive out the weak hand that might river some cheesy 2-pair on you, (and charge the loosies chasing their back-door draw).

And you like money.

I think the pf raise is debateable, but that's another topic.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: live hand--flop play with AQ

There is no way in hell I raise AQo in the blinds after 6 limpers.
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